Democrats just won what could be their largest House majority in decades but some battle-tested centrists are already warning their party not to lose it in 2028.

Those now-emboldened Democrats, who have long competed in battleground districts, are now urging party leaders to stick to this fall’s core promises on affordability — or risk a backlash in the next election.

Privately and publicly, these Democrats are urging leaders to focus on kitchen-table issues and avoid culture-war fights they believe could divide the party and invite Republican attacks, according to nearly a dozen lawmakers and aides.

For many, that means steering clear of transgender issues and policing reform bills they fear Republicans would weaponize. They also want to avoid left-wing priorities such as ending US support for Israel or abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Several Democrats also called for restraint in the party’s oversight agenda, warning that talk of impeaching President Donald Trump or his Cabinet should not overshadow that focus.

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[–] 93 points 1 day ago

Gotta remember they're still neo liberal conservatives who have to maintain corporate interests.

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  • [–] 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Want to know why Democrats have such grabage approval ratings from their own voters, shit like this. Oh and fuck Israel and ICE.

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  • [–] 8 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

    they're leaning back, tweaking their nipples, confident you're not going to vote 3rd party and will throw them a hate vote.

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  • [–] 6 points 23 hours ago*

    Jokes on them then, I’m not a Democrat and never will because politics isn’t a team sport. I’ll vote for them if they have good candidates but I happily didn’t vote D for my senator this year because I think he is corporate Dem who will follow Chuck Schumer lockstep and I won’t support that.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 day ago

    Centrist Democrats

    Did you mean worthless corporate shills?

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  • [–] 44 points 1 day ago

    "Battle tested" lol centrists are doughboys hiding in the trench making no gains whatsoever. Time for the progressive blitz

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  • [–] 43 points 1 day ago

    Do not do ANYTHING the Voters Asked For!

    -LITERALLY Democrats!

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  • [–] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    “We are going to try to govern, progressives are going to try to make a point,” one Democratic aide working for a centrist member told CNN. “This is not the time to show how progressive we can be. People need to see us fighting.”

    These fucking ghouls...

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago

    I always heard leftist people saying that this is what the Democrats would do.

    Shocked the shit out of me when I got to observe them doing it.

    These people have no business being involved in government at any level. If you see a group trying to commit a Holocaust and you're concerned that people might perceive you as too progressive for supporting transgender people, you have clearly decided to be part of the problem.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    "Battled-tested"? I mean just say experienced, don't give them more than they've earned. Unless you mean battles where they're cowering in the foxholes and no advancements were made.

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  • [–] 31 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    Dear Centrist Democrats: Grow a fucking spine or fuck off.

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  • [–] 29 points 17 hours ago

    Oh, fuck off. The next people to go are these shitty democrats that only serve themselves.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    For many, that means steering clear of transgender issues and policing reform bills they fear Republicans would weaponize. They also want to avoid left-wing priorities such as ending US support for Israel or abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    They are already weaponizing everything, real and otherwise, you fucking cowards!

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  • [–] 1 point 14 hours ago

    yeah don't fix immigration, the Latino voting block that just materialized will just... just... NOT like that they voted for you to do that and you did it... right.... gotta be smart about politics!!

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  • [–] 27 points 17 hours ago

    The centrist Dems consistently having the worst fucking takes

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  • [–] 26 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    "I know you've had a lot of success with leftist and socialist candidates, but we've got donors to think about!"

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  • [–] 24 points 1 day ago

    These dumb fucks. What would "too far" even look like, really? Decorating the senate floor with his intestines? Firing the cabinet out of a cannon into the Washington monument? It's hard for me to imagine an unacceptable response to the last 2 years.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago

    Centrists don't want culture war issues, don't want oversight, don't want foreign policy. They just want kitchen table issues. Except they also don't want government spending or wealth redistribution.

    According to them, everything in the country was perfect two years ago, they just want that back. Plus all the culture war, foreign policy, and corruption normalization that Trump's done. That stuff is good too, of at least not bad enough to do something rude like fight against it.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago

    Centrist democrats can fuck right off

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  • [–] 18 points 21 hours ago

    Nah, fuck that. Centrism didn't win this midterm.

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  • [–] 18 points 21 hours ago

    Which is why we don't need centrist Dems at the moment.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 day ago

    2028 Democratic Primaries began the moment polls closed.

    Time to continue reforming and purifying the Democrats, in continued fulfillment of Bernie's goal.

    Out with the stagnant old; in with the new.

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  • [–] 17 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    The Republicans murdered civilians in Iran, Venezuela, the Gulf of Mexico, the Caribbean, Minnesota, and all across the US.

    They fully turned ICE into the gestapo and have used it to terrorize citizens and legal immigrants and intimidate or murder legal dissenters

    They poisoned an already unbalanced media landscape.

    They destroyed national parks and monuments up to and including the White House.

    They have openly flaunted corruption in all branches of government to criminalize abortion which certain justices deemed established law in their confirmation hearings, accept presidential emoluments from foreign nations, destroy public scientific databases and erode public institutions.

    They abandoned our allies and global commitments to create a dangerous global security and food situation for decades to come and completely zeroed out US trust and soft power.

    What is too far? What the fuck could possibly be too far? Instead, be afraid that you Democrats don't do enough, cementing in our minds that your party is useless, which will lead to the next situation being worse than the current one.

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  • [–] 17 points 20 hours ago

    Looking forward to losing 2028 by a landslide if these weaklings get their way.

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  • [–] 16 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    Not focusing on transgender issues means restoring the status quo. Trans people were able to change gender markers on their ID cards, and play in school sports, and not be prosecuted for using public restrooms before the current trans panic.

    Restore the rights we already had. Anything less is a betrayal, and a choice to join the fascists. Refusing to restore our rights is the opposite of steering clear the issue.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago

    Dems, prosecute illegal acts and deprivation of rights, period. Voters will let you know when you've gone too far.

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  • [–] 15 points 18 hours ago

    The centrist democrats can shut the fuck up

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  • [–] 14 points 23 hours ago

    The rage I harbor for these people...

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    These fucks and all associated with them have 0 place in party leadership or in steering the party.

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  • [–] 12 points 23 hours ago

    Just because congressional committees did dick the last 2 years, doesn't mean that investigations/committees doing more, distracts from any legislation anyone wants to put forward.

    as ending US support for Israel or abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    DNC going to the right of JD Vance and Trump on Israel is normal. Surely AIPAC will give each of them $50m for their primary. Celebrating Steven Miller's new Gestapo push... bold move Cotton.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Here we go again. How many times do we have to do this before people actually learn?

    Don't go too hard in standing up for law and order. We would want people to get the wrong impression!

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  • [–] 21 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    Transgender rights aren’t culture war issues.

    And if you can’t even stand behind that bare-minimum plank in your platform, what the hell good are you?

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  • [–] 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

    theres actual peer reviewed studies showing that them supporting trans rights is the position that gets them exponentially more votes. At this point you have to wonder if "pragmatism" is just cover for bigotry

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago

    I mean it is. It's also because that's what their masters want, so it sows discord amongst the working class.

    Want to be heard? Want change? Getting organized, and getting armed is the only way it will happen. They don't fear us more than they love money.

    We can change that.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago

    Vote these centrist Democrats out of office.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago

    Israeli owned fascist traitors warn the democrats to keep funding genocide, endless war, the attack on the working class, mass surveillance and private concentration camps because that is somehow more reasonable than not doing any of that

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    Abolishing having an army of armed masked thugs roaming our streets beating, killing, and disappearing people is a "left-wing" priority?! Are you fucking kidding me?

    Side note: I am so sick of the term "kitchen table"! 🤮 Why is this what they always use to refer to cost-of-living issues? It's so stupid. Besides, how many people actually have kitchens big enough to put a table in? Not me, not people who live in most regular apartments or smaller houses. I guess they can't even imagine that people who don't have a kitchen table exist.

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  • [–] 8 points 19 hours ago

    Several Democrats also called for restraint in the party’s oversight agenda

    And thus the donor-class MAGA-lite Dems like Schumer and Jeffries reveal themselves.

    I heard a historian give their opinion the other day that accountability -- openly and justly holding individuals responsible for their crimes in government -- was the reason that West Germany was able to create a thriving democracy after WWII and East Germany was not. I don't know how valid that is, but it's a possibility, and worth thinking about.

    On the other hand, I DO know that all we got from not prosecuting J6 was a kick of the can down the road and a far worse situation domestically and internationally than anyone ever saw coming. Trump has literally destroyed the last eighty years of world order and the peace and stability and prosperity that order created. Like bin Laden, Trump was only empowered to do far more evil and in far worse ways for not being held accountable for his known crimes.

    And the idea that it's either one or the other, the economy OR accountability, is a false dichotomy. The US federal government has been in operation for 250 years now, in one iteration or another, and has always done a great many things effectively and simultaneously with ease, including Congress. It's not even hard. It only takes political will to set that machinery in motion.

    Only a fool believes we can't do both, and only a liar says we shouldn't even try.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago

    The voters eho would be upset that you"went too far" didn't and wouldn't vote for you anyway.

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  • [–] 7 points 18 hours ago

    Gee, maybe that's why there are over a million signatures on a campaign to ditch those leaders. They shouldn't listen to centrists. People are very pissed at how things are going.

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  • [–] 9 points 18 hours ago

    So people turn out in the recent elections with a punishing result to republicans for their shit policies, and these newly "emboldened" centrist dems somehow take home the lesson that they should shift further to the right and appease republican interests?

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

    Fuck it. Centrists, go ahead and cosplay as republicans just like Kamala Harris did. That way when it blows up in your faces in 2028 when no one will vote for you, at least then you won't be able to lie to yourselves by blaming the left for your failures.

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  • [–] 4 points 19 hours ago

    """Centrist"""

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago*

    "Centrist Democrats" say "oh dear god please don't fuck with our wealth too"

    Edit: No. No, this is more of a sign that the DNC was becoming a controlled opposition. The rise of the progressive caucus is not what the oligarchs want.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago

    American centrist are basically just plain old right wing.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago*

    “C’mon, guys, this is going to effect my bottom line, we can’t be controlled opposition if we’re not controlled! Who’s going to be bribing my vote, now, the gays? Fat chance!”

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago

    We got a bunch of good Dems elected this year and we'll get a bunch more in 2028, replacing more of the useless ones. This is gonna take a few cycles but we're going to change the Democratic Party into something useful.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    Several Democrats also called for restraint in the party’s oversight agenda, warning that talk of impeaching President Donald Trump or his Cabinet should not overshadow that focus.

    They're not wrong.

    Even if you impeach and convict Trump, new President Vance will pardon everybody. Please don't be stupid. You're just going to have to wait two years for this.

    Why don't you... release the Epstein files? You don't even have to break the law. Just share what you've seen by "accident". "Oops, I forgot I can't say that we have proof that Trump and Clinton and Dershowitz and Epstein raped kids together on the Lolita Express, I'm sorry."

    Frankly, Trump serving the next two years will only hurt Republicans. Look at him.

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  • [–] 3 points 16 hours ago

    The Harbingers of Fascism have opinions.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago

    I told ya so

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  • [–] 3 points 21 hours ago

    Sounds likes a great strategy.

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