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[–] [S] 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’ve just published my not-quite-a-review, not-quite-an-impressions-piece, but something closer to a good old-fashioned feature article about the AYN Odin 3 Portal, which is a retro handheld designed to emulate old games (but can also emulate PC games very well). I wanted to approach this one a little differently from your typical handheld review.

I interviewed several developers behind the software people are most likely to use on hardware this powerful, including jpolo (ARMSX3), Camille LaVey (Eden), Utkarsh (GameNative) and Json (DroidDeck). Their insights into the Dragonwing Q8, the challenges of modern emulation and where things are heading form a big part of the article, alongside my own testing of everything from PS2 and GameCube to PS3, Xbox 360 and PC gaming.

It’s also a rather long read, much closer to those enormous feature articles gaming websites used to publish years ago. I’ve always loved that sort of writing, and I suspect it’ll appeal to a certain kind of retro gaming enthusiast who enjoys digging into the technology and the people behind it. Or I hope so, anyway. It is a long read.

As for the Portal itself? I think it’s about as close to the perfect larger Android gaming handheld as you can get, provided you can afford it. The OLED is gorgeous, the controls are wonderful, performance is extraordinary, and that infamous high-pitched fan whine from the Odin 3 is completely gone. Not everything runs perfectly, especially some demanding PS3 games, but gaming on this thing has been an absolute pleasure.

Hope you enjoy the read!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    @PerfectDark It seems interesting, but I'll stick to my core belief that modern phone/tablet operating systems are the literal worst possible choices for gaming. But, really, even for normal usage IMO they're starting to really show their age. They made lots of sense back in 2010 for 1GHz processors that performed about 1/10th as well relative to modern processors of the same speed and 256MiB of RAM to pull ahead of the interfaces that preceded them, but they have not scaled well at all and have become so messy and bloated...(Yeah, I think mobile devices should use a real OS now.)

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  • [–] 1 point 22 hours ago

    It runs android because on average x86 machines run worse of the battery then arms based machines (especially in this size form factor) which I would argue is the most important quality to have in a gaming handheld. Your basically trading compatibility for battery life and if you want this thing can run Linux.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Lol wut, how did they pick the name AYN? Is it programmed in Objectivist-C?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I just finished reading this and wanted to say that I really appreciated the detail and effort put into this. It really reminds me of the stuff I would engross myself in as a teen. Nice work!

    The Odin 3 Portal seems like a fantastic device for my needs. I'm planning on emulating locally and streaming AAA and other steam games from my desktop PC using Apollo/Artemis.

    I'm wondering if you have any experience with such a setup? My major worry with a device like this is the lack of VRR. Did you experience any screen tearing when using it?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Thats really kind of you to say!

    I know for a fact that Russ will cover streaming PC games in his review. He was at a wedding over the weekend and is only just filming his impressions video now, so his full review is still a little ways off. But we've chatted about it, he'll be reviewing that very thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago

    Awesome, thanks for that info. I'm kinda new to this whole handheld thing. Russ runs the Retro Game Corps youtube channel right? If so, I've probably watched like 10 hours of his stuff in the past couple of days as a result of my new obsession. His channel is so refreshing after some of the other stuff I watched.

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  • 13 comments in c/retrogaming@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 7 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Thanks to you I bought the AYN Odin 3 from your review on it, you even warned is not to!

    I'm glad I did, PC emulation went from strength to strength console emulation is better too and the GPU drivers keep coming and are easy to integrate.

    I'm trying to atop myself installing Linux on it, but I see that happening someday, they're great little machines.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 days ago

    I’m glad I did, PC emulation went from strength to strength console emulation is better too and the GPU drivers keep coming and are easy to integrate.

    And it is getting better and better still!

    I know a few exciting things still to come from the PC emulation side specifically (which as a naming convention is a misnomer, I know), and with the O3P now on the scene, AYN is very much invested in keeping this line going :)

    I'm so, so glad my review and articles help! That means the world to me!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Great review. I feel like I learned a lot without “spoiling” the new owner experience. I also really appreciate your long form articles. I am sure you get more engagement on other platforms but thanks for posting on Lemmy!

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Thank you so much!!!

    It might sound like a 'line', but I'm way more invested in Lemmy. This is my kind of space rather than the typical ones :)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Feels like I'm reading about a new one of these every week! Do these kind of devices actually get any kind of long term support from the manufacturers or are they churned out like cheap Android phones and never troubled by a security update again?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    AYN actually has a really reasonable track record of supporting its devices after launch. The Odin 2 Portal was still receiving firmware updates like this August, for example (which launched in January 2025), and the original Odin 3 has received several too.

    That said, these are generally bug fixes, performance improvements and features specific to their software and optimization, rather than the regular Android version upgrades and security patches you'd expect from like of Samsung or Google. I'm not aware of AYN offering any guaranteed long-term security support, so that's certainly something worth considering. They're not simply abandoning devices immediately, but I wouldn't put their software support in the same category as a major smartphone manufacturer.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (2 children)

    I guess the level of updates you'd need from a device like this is probably less than for your phone as you're presumably not putting as much personal information on it, but given the security landscape these days I don't think I'd want to risk a networked device that's not getting updates. They're not exactly cheap either, if I'm spending hundreds on a computer I'm not expecting the manufacturer to abandon it after a year or two so they can sell me the latest model!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Yeah, but those things were used to needing regular updates, when they're abandoned they aren't actually abandoned, they're purposely bricked to cause you to buy a new model. Regularly updating to be able to download games and connect to the psn network is not the same arena at all, if you're running an emulator.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    thanks for this :) i keep thinking about getting the Steam Deck and then I read articles like this...

    feels weird, retro gaming, i was writing games for the Commodore 64 back in the day using assembler, the games people play on "retro" decks are newer then games I play. Vintage gamer I guess ;)

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 days ago

    Ironically those same C64 games are emulate-able, if you ever want to jump right back in time!

    The Steam Deck is still a level above when it comes to PC gaming performance, but these handhelds are leaping along in performance. I actually think it is just a matter of time :)

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  • 1 comment in c/games@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Only two mentions of the Odin2 Portal in the entire article, and spends the remainder of the time comparing the 3 Portal to the Odin3. What a strange (and in my opinion, useless) choice.

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