Texas for brisket, sausage. KC for ribs. NC for pork.
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Eastern NC style
Whichever one has the best burnt ends.
Central Texas oak-smoked brisket is the best BBQ that exists
I don't disagree.
In this context that would be called grilling. BBQ is also a term that is used, but not when you talk about Texas, Kansas, and NC. We have that too. You wouldn't cook a ribeye this way. It's just different in this convo.
Fried chicken is also relevant here, and the Korean KFC and KBBQ are foods that deserve lots of respect IMO.
Who am I kidding? I just like good food.
Jokes aside, let us not forget that many of these people voted blue through gritted teeth in direct opposition to Trump. Those people will not appreciate being called a liberal for their votes. They will 100% go back red on the next election if and when Trump and his cronies are not on the ballot, unless the Dems can take advantage of this situation and show some actual fucking leadership and demonstrate why their choose was a good one. This is not a time for complacency. We won a lap, not the whole race.
NC is really a pretty liberal and educated state, and continued urban population growth is likely to continue the trend.
It's just got a lot of rural areas and the GOP locked them down during the 90s
Don't hold your breath. Corporate-Dems think they won and this is a clear sign that poor people want neoliberalism and elitist "progressiveisms".
Can you share what neoliberalism or elitist progressivism means to you?
I understand how to parse the words, but it's just a nonsense label to ideas you don't like. You also can't really label any group as both "poor" and "elitist" at the same time.
Those people will not appreciate being called a liberal
What do these people have against liberty? Don’t they like freedom?
Nothing beats a good Texas brisket.
Kansas city is just sauce. It should be called casserole, not bbq.
NC sauce makes their bbq inedible, so I I am not sure how good their meat is.
I like how Texas still gets no love. Bless your heart.
I think they all do different things well. Texas is beef and brisket in my mind and NC is for pulled pork. KC has a good sauce, but I'm least exposed to that. Why divide and separate? Unite and share the love.
I know I'm biased, but Texas all day every day.
That said, I do love me some vinegar sauce
It's Kansas, but only one place in Kansas. The rest suck ass.
Anthony Bourdain agrees: https://www.foodrepublic.com/1582674/anthony-bourdain-favorite-barbecue-kansas-city/
Kansas side or Missouri side?
Carolina Q but KC sauce
On a business trip I once had a group of burly Texas oilmen all agree that the brisket at the “DC area chain restaurant” was the best they’d had.
Which was … pretty fucking funny tbh.
For the next decade they all tried to find a better joint in Houston.
I don’t even like brisket that much.
Either, but slathered in NC mustard-vinegar sauce.
Pffft. Ain't nobody saying Kansas no matter how they vote.
In what sense?
NC BBQ (meat prep etc.) beats the rest, but their BBQ sauce is meh.
I'll take your vinegar BBQ sauce, if you don't want it
If their meat prep was worth a shit they wouldn’t need sauce anyway.
I've always heard this from inferior BBQ styles.
NC has a "whole hog" style, but the sauces are the real difference.
Eastern NC is vinegar and peppers. Western NC is vinegar and peppers and ketchup. South Carolina is vinegar and peppers and mustard.
You see the difference? That's why NC has an official Eastern and Western style whole hog bbq.
I mean if you like the taste of bbq sauce that’s fine but the sauce tastes the same whether or not you put in the work on the meat. A good sauce can add to good bbq meat but it shouldn’t be the only reason your meat tastes good.
The problem is the vinegar. That's not BBQ sauce, it's salad dressing.
My guy, you need to learn more about cooking.
Acids have a brightness that is excellent to cut fats. That's how you make a salad dressing (fat, acid, emulsifier, flavor)
The BBQ is fatty pig. The sauce is acid and flavor. That's just balancing flavors.
You do usually mop with acid, but it's not a problem to add some fresh. That's the same as squeezing a lime on a taco or a lemon on an oyster.
We don't use "sauce". It's just vinegar and peppers. Western NC has red slaw. That's the only difference.
Texas isn't even BBQ, it's the wrong animal. But we aren't ready for that talk.
Texas isn't even BBQ, it's the wrong animal.
You just invalidated any opinion you may have on bbq.
Just because white trash hillbilles from SC to Tennessee couldn't afford to bbq beef, they think bbq can only be pig.
You could have said, "Traditionally, we consider that bbq just means pork.", but to truly gatekeep the meat!?
That's some ignorant shit right there. That's the kind of mentality that would still have us eating boiled potates with no salt. Just because some peckerwood grandpa Jeb only bbq'd pork (because that's all he had), is the dumbest reason to say you can only bbq pork.
This is an even dumber stance than the beans/no beans in chili arguments.
Of course the pig farmer wants BBQ to be pork, and beef farmer wants BBQ to be beef, and the chicken farmer wants BBQ to be chicken.
They don't make the rules, they just raise the BBQ. We'll smoke whatever we want.
Bbq, smoking and grilling and preserving meats all existed before USA was even a wet dream of white supremacists.
I love red slaw. Cabbage, cider vinegar, ketchup, salt, pepper, spicy stuff.
Texas 100%Nobody else had any business doing brisket
Even though humans have been doing bbq and eating cows long before Texas existed or cows arrived in North America?
I'll take Texas or Kansas, but that NC BBQ with that salad dressing for sauce is some weak-ass shit. Come up with some good sauce, or find another game.
Texas and Kansas think BBQ sauce should be basically ketchup, but with even more sugar. North Carolina has great sauce with vinegar and spice. South Carolina's is also great with the mustard-based sauce.
It's pretty much vinegar with some spices. Years ago when I moved to NC, ordered BBQ pulled pork at a little hole in the wall place. Not what I expected. The pork itself was delicious but they poured that vinegar over the plate and essentially ruined it. I still get BBQ here, but order a side of rib sauce. That vinegar stuff is garbage.
Unfortunately, Kansas.
It's not fucking bbq. It's slow cooker casserole bullshit!
And they eat their chili, poured over a cinnamon roll...
There is something fundamentally wrong with that state.
So much so that they created a show about a football coach from Kansas who goes on to coach real football in the UK. Even then they only managed to promote how good the sauce is.
Chili on cinnamon roll sounds nice.
Bbq is slow cooked meat. It's probably the oldest cooking technique that humans have been using since we became uppity and snobby enough to turn our nose at bleeding, raw meat.
Why liberal? Liberalism is a doctrine of personal freedoms. Leftist is probably the right word
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