My life has slowed down a bit so I've started thinking about myself a little more. Some of the sexual envy I've felt surrounding sex and my specific kinks I realize are very focused towards "damn, it just seems like it would be so much better with girl parts". Cuz it really does.

I've always felt envy to women who just seem like they always feel a lot more than I do. Like it feels good to have sex but I'm rarely gasping and lost in pleasure like most girls are, except for a few times I've received anal and the stars aligned well for my mental state and energy. And then the multiple orgasms women can have, my god. But as good as anal is it just doesn't quite, eh, feel like it's the same as that.

It goes deeper into one of my kinks too.

Weird kink stuff here that I've never told another soul:

spoilerOne of my kinks is pee related; specifically, omorashi/diaper stuff. Not like "adult baby" kinda stuff but wetting diapers or pants, holding it until I lose control, it's a turn on for me and I partake somewhat frequently...

With male equipment it's "alright" but I have found myself constantly fantasizing about how much better it would be with female parts, especially while in the middle of the kink stuff. I wouldn't have to worry about where I'm pointing if I'm wearing a diaper, it gets everything right between the thighs, it doesn't get in the way or pinched when wearing bulky padding, it's easier to lose control (because the loss of voluntary control I find the hottest) - urgh. Female parts are literally designed for this kink and it makes me wish I had them. It seems like it gets really obvious the more I think about it, that I've been using the kink to contain those thoughts as a compartmentalized outlet that's "just part of the kink" and not part of me as a person. But maybe it is part of me as a person??


What's strange tho is outside the kink I really do like my parts, having and using a penis is enjoyable. But after my previous revelations I'm wondering if that is just self-convincing to not feel bad about it, and I need to do a lot more thinking on my feelings about it.

Outside the kink my libido is rather low too, at least mentally. Like for as relatively young as I am, in decent shape, with fairly high T and all, I should be able to have sex multiple times a day, but I'm usually a one and done with my girlfriend before my mind just goes "yeah I'm done with this effort of bring horny, brain tired now let's sleep or move on to next autistic hyperfocus because you have shit to do".
Thats ofc made worse by how fucking busy I am all the time. But like am I secretly not into having sex as a man? Idfk.

I'm not really looking for any advice just writing random vomit flow of thoughts out that came to me last night, because text writing helps me organize my brain. Sorry if I gross anyone out because I'm fucking into weird stuff I'll delete if I do..

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[–] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Although having "female" parts and hormones is honestly way better IMHO, it doesn't have downsides in terms of sexuality. It takes a lot more time to be fully satisfied, and the majority of men don't have the patience or care to help you get off or they think the first time you have a little contraction that you're done. It's no wonder so many women fake it, though I wish more would communicate instead, though I know that can be risky with a subset of men so it's often not worth the risk. And female parts require more maintenance and decent bras are super expensive. And emotions are definitely different with estrogen dominance, so you have to develop some new skills, but I prefer the deeper experience of sadness over the stronger feeling of anger (part of that is hormone driven and part is cultural allowances).

Anyway, just generalizing here, but there are some disadvantages. I'm mostly lesbian, so a lot of that is mitigated since we both understand the logistics and most feel more comfortable communicating. Most sex I've had with people with vaginas and estrogen dominance is often a multiple hour long adventure rather than just a few minutes, which can be good or bad, lol. And it does mean relationships require more emotional maintenance (though honestly it's dumb that many cis-het and gay men relationships don't have that).

Anyway, I'm happy to clarify if anyone is interested and respectful. There are pluses and minuses, but for me the pluses greatly outweigh the minuses. And I've felt so much more comfortable in my body since I had genital dysphoria and "phantom genital" issues most of my life, even if I didn't understand that was what was up for most of it. 🙂

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    Just here to highlight the fact that it really does take a lot longer. I didn't get the emotional effect from estrogen (12+ yrs) but I'm pretty emotionally numb from trauma which does affect my libido. Nowadays it's such a chore that ADHD brain usually takes over first.

    Physical sensations are there, but the headspace is basically non-existent

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    Yeah I also struggle with similar trauma from undiagnosed ADHD and likely on the Autism spectrum, and yeah that contributes a lot. I still reflexively bury emotions, but I have found there's a lot more breakthroughs and I've been trying to allow myself to let them through when I can. But it's hard to overcome that conditioning that was literally beaten into me as a child.

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  • It takes a lot more time to be fully satisfied...Most sex I’ve had with people with vaginas and estrogen dominance is often a multiple hour long adventure rather than just a few minutes, which can be good or bad, lol.

    That's about time consuming as trying to deal with T-libido for me, but actually getting to do it for pleasure rather than just a chore to be able to go to sleep. Switching to E has only been positives for me with regards to any sexual matters. It takes less time when you don't get distracted as easily/dissociate.

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  • I have a long term amazing partner that I'm already planning to marry so I'm not too worried about not being taken care of sexually or emotionally... Her libido is higher than mine by many orders of magnitude lol.

    Sex being a longer but more fulfilling experience sounds like it would be preferred to me. Like, I just can't get engaged enough in my current mind to make it last more than maybe 30 minutes without forcing it and then I get tired and grumpy. It seems like going on HRT changes all that and y'all speak very highly of it which is making me begin to want it...

    Uh, is your experience written with or without bottom surgery? I don't know I'm ever brave enough to go that far but the thought is still floating around in there.

    Thank you for your input girl I really appreciate it 💖 y'all are amazing

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    [–] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

    Yeah I mean, I think that is a very important thing to explore if you're in a safe mental space to do so; it can be surprisingly grievous in my experience.

    Like you, I never really complained about having a penis, and since I was always kind of annoyed with having one, I thought everyone elso also simply tolerated their penises. I've always felt like it gets in the way, gets uncomfortable, annoying to piss with (seriously, why tf do we still let men piss standing up in any other place than a public urinal?). So, it came as a bit of a surprise to me when I heard that men actually enjoyed having one, especially after the insane shit I could see cis women do for sexual pleasure, like you mentioned above.

    I didn't mind topping, I didn't mind being the one that leads during sex, or takes on more aggressive/dominant, masculinized roles, but never once did I feel fulfilled by that. Obviously, penetrative sex can still feel very good strictly in terms of physical sensation, but yeah, it's nothing I go for except for exceptionally rare cases.

    The reason why I said "grievous," is because this realization actually hurt a lot when it came to me. It wasn't that I was just exceptionally sexually deviant, or desensitized by porn and sexual violence, I just had an entire lifetime of sexual understanding and fulfillment kept from me. It honestly gets deeper down into your psyche than you realize.

    I completely get the kinks (I seriously don't think piss counts as weird or gross, especially for people who may have very deeply rooted discomfort with anything associated with their genitals). But yeah, I discovered that a lot of my own sexual tastes were rooted in a fundamental dissatisfaction and neglect, and even though I may enjoy many of the same kinks, the way I used to enjoy them more closely resembled self-harm than sexual pleasure; which comes with its own sort of grieving.

    This isn't to say you're engaging in self-harm yourself, but just to put it out there if you're worried that this may be the case. It's completely normal to question your enjoyment of "male-"coded sexual acts, and you may even continue to enjoy them once you understand how they relate to yourself rather than what you've been socialized to use a penis for.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 days ago* (2 children)

    I didn’t mind topping, I didn’t mind being the one that leads during sex, or takes on more aggressive/dominant, masculinized roles, but never once did I feel fulfilled by that.

    Oh jesus, this suddenly resonated fuck. I don't mind taking the masculine role either, thinking back to current and past partners I really enjoyed traditional sex when it was fresh, but I realize once the autism novelty seeking wears off I'm not really feeling like I'm getting fulfillment out of it. Gah.

    Thank you girl you are so validating <33

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Oh, I'm glad to hear that it did validate you <3

    It's definitely one of those thngs that people take for granted, which, to me, emblemizes how trans-misogyny effects both our self-perception, and what language is afforded to us to develop self-understanding. I'm more butch than I ever was as a "man," but it in no way resembles a man's masculinity. I found it really difficult to assert that for a long time; there's a lot of risk that comes with being a trans woman, and acceptance of our own sexual needs and desires is one of those risky things to assert to others.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

    Can we please stop talking about how "women" feel as if they are like something different than us (trans) women. You all seem to be mostly fine talking about penises why cant you talk urethras vulvas, vaginas, labias... Everything else will just result in (accidental) transphobia

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 child)

    I didn't mean to drag any unintentional transphobia in here, I'm sorry... Bit it's kind of unavoidable, when trying to hash out my questioning feelings of femininity when I'm still outwardly presenting as a man.

    I don't know what the better way to describe the differences is? Like majority of trans girls don't get bottom surgery iirc so theyre still gonna have a penis and slight biological differences in arousal, yes they're just as much of a woman as any other but those exact differences of cis man vs trans woman is what my brain is trying to wrap itself around and understand right now.

    Either way I've been very grateful to the comments people have left its been helping me look at myself a little more subjectively and in depth even if I'm still not admitting anything to myself lol

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago*

    "I don't know what the better way to describe the differences is?"

    Thats why I talked about it. You were mostly talking about genitals from what I've read. I am aware that you are babytrans and figuring out stuff, finding the right words can be difficult. But language can also hurt ones selfimage really bad, even subconsciously.

    I also think the pleasure of the whole body really changes a LOT with HRT no surgeries required. Currently I am finding myself again sexually and I can attest that with the exception of genitals at this point. I sexually do not feel different than any most cis woman.

    Most important I am not here to judge. I wanna bring awarness. I do not want to just tolerate beautiful women and girls thinking they are less of a woman for what parts they here born with.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 child)

    This post has a content warning as well but my comment has some pretty sexual content so I'm spoilering it.

    descriptions of solo sexual activity

    So I have a similar kind of envy for the type of pleasure it seems women get out of sex. The thing that has recently been working for me has been nipple play/stimulation.  My nipples were never super sensitive, but I started doing suctioning on them just with some homemade 10cc syringes with the ends cut off.  This causes the nipples to get very puffy and engorged and much more similar to the size and presumably the sensitivity of female nipples.  I've found that after doing this, with just gentle stimulation I can get waves of pleasure radiating through my body with the lightest touch.  Lightly brushing/circling the nipples with my fingertips has even brought me remarkably close to orgasm.  I think I could actually orgasm from it with enough patience and the right mindset, but I usually end up getting too worked up and going back to the usual method, but combined with one hand still playing with my nipples the orgasm is incredibly intense and much more drawn out, very similar to what it seems women experience.  Sometimes I even visualize and imagine as my fingertips are circling the way women play with their clits. It's only been a few weeks but holy fuck the orgasms are unbelievable, and it makes me feel incredibly sexy when my nipples are all puffy and sensitive. Using the suction occasionally (once or twice a week) has also made them much more sensitive just in general though as well, which is pretty great. I haven't experimented with any of this with any partners yet, it's been a solo journey so far, but I thought I'd share because it's honestly been mindblowing. 
    

    Edit* I don't know why but the spoiler tag isn't working unless I do it like this and I'm too tired to figure it out right now

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 days ago

    Are you on hrt by any chance? Ive been reading a lot and ig breast sensitivity is one of the first things to come with higher E levels.

    Very similar, I've like, basically never liked my nipples played with but my gf really loves hers being played with. I thought it was a autism sensory thing with me but I wonder if it was my brain blocking it out.

    I might try some of that on myself...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (3 children)

    I'm cis and male but i feel the same about my body in many ways.

    I know that envy is kind of an unfortunate reaction but I indeed am envious of the female body.

    My male organs seem way too focused on finishing rather than enjoying and I've always been kinda sad about that. From what I've read, prostate Os are the closest to what women feel, but I've yet to figure that out... And my body doesn't seem very sensitive in general...

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 day ago

    Yeah I feel ya, I've had prostate O's before, usually in addition to stimulating the front and they are very intense. It's really dependent on warming up and being in right headspace else it doesn't feel that good vs. just jacking off. But the envy is still there because that takes so much extra prep and doesn't always work out.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Spoiler: NSFW (sex stuff), infodumpingFYI: as someone who did a lot of experimenting in this regard before starting HRT, it is entirely possible for a testosterone-dominant body to have orgasms similar to what people on estrogen experience (long, full-body sensations without ejaculation. These can often be chained with little to no refractory period, unlike "regular" penile orgasms which last a few seconds at most, with most of the sensations concentrated in the penis itself and long recovery periods).

    There are quite a few techniques to achieve it, but the basic idea involves carefully controlled stimulation (as well as focusing on specific sensations) to reach orgasm without triggering the ejaculation reflex. Contrary to popular belief, the two do NOT necessarily have to go together, and it's ejaculation which releases the hormones causing the temporary drop in arousal ("post-nut-clarity") and the long delay until you're ready to go again. The technique I found most reliable consisted mainly of the following:

    • Stimulate only the penile frenulum, carefully moderating both speed and intensity. Just a little back-and-forth with one or two fingers should do it; going too intensely will push you over into regular penile orgasm territory.
    • Keep your body relaxed. Most importantly, the pelvic floor muscles need to be fully relaxed the whole time, which can take some practice because they reflexively want to contract whenever the penis is stimulated.
    • It's kinda hard to describe in words, but try to focus more on the feelings in your head and upper body rather than the penis itself. Ideally you're trying to focus on the gradually rising sensation of pleasure which feels like it's coming from the back/top of your skull, that one is the "girl orgasm" you're trying to reach (rather than the much "sharper" and more concentrated pleasure coming from the glans penis).
    • Slow and steady wins the race - going quickly will trigger a penile orgasm with ejaculation, it's much more important that you have a consistent rate of stimulation so that you can focus on the arousal as it builds. Expect to be at it for like half an hour or more before full orgasms start actually happening - if you want the same orgasms girls get you need an equivalent amount of "foreplay" to get yourself ready :)

    A lot of this is very hard to put into words and you really have to practice to be able to feel the difference between regular "guy arousal" and "girl arousal". It took me quite a few months (and a lot of failed attempts) to really get the hang of it, but eventually I reached the point where I could have 2-3 consecutive full-body orgasms lasting like 30+ seconds each with only a few seconds between them to catch my breath. Since starting estrogen I now get "girl orgasms" by default without having to put in much additional thought, but can say with certainty that what I was doing before was the real deal.

    Happy to explain more if you're interested :)

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