Relevant because at the time of posting to statewide senate racebis separated by less than 100 votes.

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[–] 128 points 3 days ago (29 children)

Currently there’s just 65 votes separating them; that’s nuts

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  • [–] 100 points 3 days ago (26 children)

    Where's the "YoUr vOtE DoEsN't cOuNt!!" crowd at?

    My house district race is separated by 63 votes. Same deal.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 days ago (13 children)

    Where's the "YoUr vOtE DoEsN't cOuNt!!" crowd at?

    Cackling over the 20,000 votes for the spoiler candidate.

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  • [+] -25 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Some of us like voting for the best person for the job, not a choice between a shit sandwich or a shit burger.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago* (10 children)

    That’s why I always write in the name of the person I think would do it best, even if they aren’t running 😤

    Absolute clown

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  • [+] -17 points 3 days ago* (9 children)

    Absolute clown

    Won't vote for that shit burger either. Besides, he's currently in the white house

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  • [–] 15 points 3 days ago (8 children)

    Ok, but if you had to choose between:

    Trump again, or someone from his inner circle,

    a Democrat that isn’t ideal but that is at least saying they want to undo the damage he’s caused and try to remove him, or will at least work with the more progressive Democrats that will,

    or a pie-in-the-sky candidate that, while perfect for you, has essentially zero net-appeal to most people, and doesn’t actually have a chance in hell to win?

    Because I’ll tell you, in the end there are really only two options there, and only one of them is actually against Trump

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  • [+] -19 points 3 days ago* (7 children)

    I wouldn't vote and instead shift my focus to reducing the power that the pile of shit elected would have.

    I think that's why all the tribalists are so afraid of ranked choice voting

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  • [–] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Ahhh, the secret fourth option that’s also really a vote for Trump 😂

    But I’m with you on ranked choice voting, that would absolutely be a lot better. But until we have that, not choosing IS choosing

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  • [+] -14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    This line of questioning is like asking a person if they would rather have the old octogenarian system 9 Mac OS or whatever fresh new shit Microsoft is pumping out. I've made my peace with being in the 3% or less in terms of my OSes and in my votes. I'm not willingly eating shit anymore.

    You had a pundit on CNN last night lambasting Alaska for having RCV. People in power are doing anything to keep it and it's why some of us see these contests with no real choice as having a uniparty system.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago* (2 children)

    I've made my peace with being in the 3% or less in terms of my OSes and in my votes. I'm not willingly eating shit anymore.

    Your OS is a personal choice, you get to choose it for yourself and it neither affects nor is affected by the choices of others. Elections are a collective choice, you get to voice your opinion but the result is decided by consensus, and the result is forced upon you. They are not comparable choices.

    You're going to be forced to eat shit no matter which way you vote, at least choose the smaller portion.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Are you implying that my vote isn't my own or that my choice of OS doesn't have real world consequences for other people? OS'es are also a collective choice that dictate software development on the macro level and revenue flows of other people. Will me personally not buying a windows license or a PC preloaded with a license cause layoffs at Microsoft? No, but if enough of us do it will and force Microsoft to change.

    Do you think the GOP will change from the Trump/Epstein/Shapiro faction now that they've been resoundly trounced? To early to tell, but it wouldn't have the opportunity to happen at all without them losing. Same thing with the Democrats moving away from the Pelosi style wouldn't have happened without the losses in 2010.

    You also missed my qualifier about eating shit. I'm not willingly eating it. If a candidate wants my vote, they have to earn it. I'm not endorsing a giant turd for office

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  • Your vote does nothing individually. You don't get to personally choose your representatives. You vote for who you want, and whichever candidate gets the most votes is the one who represents you, regardless of whether they were your choice.

    Your choice in OS is completely individual. You can choose Linux, your neighbor can choose Windows, your other neighbor can choose MacOS, and you all get what you want. It's a different dynamic entirely. Large scale consequences of millions of people choosing one way or another in regards to OS are a completely unrelated phenomenon.

    I didn't miss your qualifier, it just isn't a useful qualifier. You can vote your conscience and get force-fed a huge pile of shit, or hold your nose and vote for the smaller pile of shit and maybe get it. You can endorse whoever you want, but you'll be eating shit regardless. And ballots are anonymous, so "endorsement" isn't the right word in the first place.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    and instead shift my focus to reducing the power that the pile of shit elected would have.

    No you wouldn't, because this isn't even a thing you can fucking do.

    I think you'll find that nearly everyone here agrees with you about ranked choice voting. I'm really not sure why you seem to think we are afraid of, or against it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    Limiting the power of the branches by returning the power to the people directly is what I'm talking about. If that seems vague, it's because it is. That idea isn't limited to any particular topic. Ideally the power would be so limited that it wouldn't matter who's elected to the position.

    Are you in party leadership? The people in leadership are the ones afraid of it because it means giving up the duopoly.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Where’s the “YoUr vOtE DoEsN’t cOuNt!!” crowd at?

    Don't say that too loud. I really don't want them to show up. I already know that the "election is rigged" crowd is out there waiting and I'm not sure if I have the sanity for it.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    The election was rigged, it was just done incompetently (like everything involving fascists). A lot of this blue wave is due to Republican gerrymandering backfiring because they left themselves too thin of a margin. This election proved that voting is still important even when the election is rigged.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    Gerrymandering is SOP for both parties. No guesses why its one of the only countries where its legal and partisans can draw boundaries.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago*

    No, in this regard both parties are nowhere near the same. They both suck ass but the shenanigans are extremely lopsided. You are gravely misinformed.

    Edit: oh, I forgot you’re a foreign agitator that has also previously spouted off absolute bullshit about how ICE is here to protect people and always follows “standard procedure”. You’re very credible.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Where’s the “YoUr vOtE DoEsN’t cOuNt!!” crowd at?

    Since violence didn't win a single seat this year, presumably in shambles.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 days ago*

    This is a crazy standard process. Miscounts happen, small variances are expected, and most elections aren't so close. That's why so many states have recounts at like .5 -1% mandatory just to verify. They're going to request a recount for such a close race anyway, might as well just make it the standard.

    Yet again Mississippi proving they don't know how to operate an effective government.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    just to be clear they have specific rules in state law that allow challenging the election in court if they want to.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 days ago (13 children)

    Seems like that “no recounts” rule is probably gonna be challenged up to the Supreme Court (of the US, not MS), regardless of who technically wins the election

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  • [–] 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    States get to run their own elections?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    How? States manage their elections, not the Fed?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    The same way any case gets to them. The loser sues and the civil case gets appealed repeatedly.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I guess anything can get to the supreme court that way. The supreme court has been rejecting all election cases though

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Bush v Gore was a notable and shameful exception. They are ignoring Trump’s recent temper tantrum filings because he’s asking for way too much for even the crazy corrupt Alito and Thomas to abide. But don't kid yourself, they will forsake what few principles they have in a heartbeat if it suits them.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Didn't that happen once already and it was decided that there wasn't enough time in the 2 months between the election and the candidate taking power without leaving the citizenry in uncertainty over who was elected?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    What's the story with Alaska being so late? Similar drama?

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  • [–] 62 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Adding to the others: it's also ranked choice, so they have to wait for all the ballots to come in before they start redistributing losing votes

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago

    Their polls closed the later than the rest (except HI), its a massive state, and the infrastructure isn't the best. So it takes time. Also its a close race, so they want to be right when they call it.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    You also can’t make a citizen lead constitutional amendment vote in Mississippi anymore.

    When I lived there, MS when from 5 districts to 4 districts in 2000. The state constitution says to get equal signatures from all 5 districts (12% total of the total vote in the last gubernatorial election). Voter ID and gay marriage restrictions were among the ones that passed.

    Then come an amendment in 2020 to legalize medical marijuana for anything a doctor says is allowed. This passed with 70% of the popular vote. They also got signatures of 25% in all the new districts and 20% in the old districts (with much room for error). This was challeneged by the richest county mayor in MS, and the state Supreme Court sided with the mayor saying that “oh yea, you can’t get this because we no longer have 5 districts” rather than going with the heart of the law.

    Did they immediately repeal the voter ID one? Hell no. They even said they’d pass one legislatively if it was challenged. It’s been 6 years. Do you think they have gotten a new constitutional amendment process on the books? Hell no! MS government hates its citizens with a passion, mostly because it’s 30% African American.

    I’m so glad I left in 2022.

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    Hell, we're shocked they allow voting in some of these states.

    The federal government used to have to send in armed guards to ensure EVERYONE got to vote. Not just Cletus Vanderbilt the 13th.

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  • [+] -13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I'm glad you reassured me of things I don't care about

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