It's a tightrope walk. Put in too much effort and you risk pushing them away. Not enough effort and they lose interest. That is also why, in my experience, it is a good idea to have multiple friends. If you're someone who needs a lot of attention, it allows you to have multiple sources of attention without being smothering towards one person.
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Once I was in the train, minding my own business, reading an unusual, interesting book. The guy seating in front of me noticed it and we started talking. It turned out, we live in the same city. We both were relatively new there.
FF a week. We went out to get some burgers. Talked about basically everything. We had what could only qualify as a wonderful time together. Chatted for hours, even talked about travelling together to a country I know relatively well and he'd like to visit.
Where I live, split checks are custom. I always hated them, so thinking (wrongly, as it'd turn out) we'd see each other again very soon, I paid for the whole bill.
Before going home, I even cited Casablanca's well known 'beginning of a long friendship' line.
Never heard from him after that. When I tried to reach out, only a half-hearted bs 'oh sorry, I'm so bad at replying texts' came.
Never saw him again.
Really shattered my confidence in people, and myself.
Angus, if you're out there. WTF man. Why.
He might have thought you were romantically interested in him, wasn't interested, and didn't know how to communicate that without being worried he might offend you.
There's this concept of a relationship escalator and everybody rightly shits on how much it fucks things up on the back end of erotic relationships.
But in pretty much every kind of new relationship, whether it's business, friendship, family, or romance, people expect to increase their commitments gradually, in coordination with the other person.
Yes, this means that most people looking to make new friends and lovers expect you to act a little less excited about getting to know them than you actually are. 🤷🏻♀️
Actually, the only way I've been able to make sense of what happened is thinking that he might have been interested in me, correctly sensed I'd never be, and didn't want to be hurt.
maybe hes scared to develop any further relationship with you bc hes depressed and scared to get close to anyone, so he just dipped? i know that type of person, its me
I gave up. If people talk to me nicely, I respond politely but I don't make any effort to get closer. Ik it's futile.
I made this experience too. I conclude that it's just that most people aren't the type of people that i'd have long-term relationships with. It seems to me that a lot of people are either too superficial or just not interested in the things that i'm interested in.
I just have to accept that it's tricky to find the kind of people that i do want to spend time with.
Most people aren't ready to jump full force into a friendship like that. If they're your only friend, but you aren't their only friend, you have much more energy and motivation to start/maintain the friendship than they do.
Also fun math fact: For the average person, your friends will have more friends than you do.
i know that but shit.. thanks for reminding me what a loser i am
No amount of money, friends and other things that can be observed will make you a winner or loser. Being a content, happy and confident person makes you not a loser.
i know that but shit, thanks for making me feel validated ❤️
You'll get there. Just take it slow and focus on helping yourself <3
Treat people 20% better than you wish to be treated to correct for measurement error.
So if you want to scale back your interactions with someone because you feel like you are putting in all the effort: Adjust your effort to 20% more than their effort. Also consider whether you might just have more energy / time for this potential friendship. It's okay that one person "does" more than the other.
I have a similar rule I call the 2/3 rule. I'm willing to put in around 2/3 of the effort required to keep any sort of relationship going. If the other person consistently can't put in 1/3, I'll be cordial but won't otherwise do anything more for them than I'd do for a stranger.
i get along acceptably just chatting with the same group of people every day, you don't have to try to force regular friendships if it doesn't seem to be working out and is making you feel bad.
Any social interaction is better than none, maybe you'll be able to make friendships stick in the future but don't let the lack of them make you feel like you're inherently unlikable, try other approaches and see if that works better. Maybe you can just get well aquainted with people, without strictly being friends as such?
Played some cs surf last night talking with people. Felt great
Dming on Lemmy
The secret is to make friends with common interests and focus on the interests.
Even that hasn’t worked out for me so far
EASIER SAID THAN DONE -_-
What are your interests?
rotting and dying
Although I know some punk/emo folx who would probably love you
Well there's your problem
Go to any gaming store, and they'll have 5 weekly DnD sessions. Join one.
This is great advice. I want to add that it helps to have the necessary social skills to make those friends. I highly recommend Dale Carnegie's How to Make Friends and Influence People. It's old and a bit hokey but the advice is solid. It helped me grow from being awkward and largely friendless to awkward with a few friends!
I'm sorry, OP. 😔 Out of curiosity, are you in a committed relationship?
I think it’s a little hard on the other side of that as well. I have a lot of friends and it’s hard to not let someone down because things get busy and I get booked out so quick. Planning things a month out is the most realistic way I even get to see people these days.
I haven’t even seen my best friend in person for like two years now because we’ve both been slammed :/ I don’t know how reassuring that is, but I hope you don’t see it as people being against seeing you but some people feeling a bit overwhelmed by other stuff going on. Your best bet at knowing if things between y’all are good is asking to do an activity together a few weeks from now and catching up then. I hope this helps! :D
I have been seeing this guy and we pretty much don't even speak to each other. We just send stickers and then when our plans line up, sleep together.
Its pretty dope.
Friendships require maintenance and effort.

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