Peer pressure is one of the only things that can change minds. Facts don't do it so much as your friends and people you look up to pushing back on you.

to me the whole republican party is part of this and with the violation of the constitution as policy im no longer willing to pretend its a valid political party and not a traitorous anti american organization.

On one hand, yes.

On the other, the logical conclusion I come to from that is to kill / do a concentration camp on them. That strikes me as immoral and part of the reason I fundamentally could never be on their side.

In an ideal world, I'd be able to convert them to my point of view. I know that's a lofty goal and probably a fool's errand, but I see it as the only way to proceed while retaining humanity.

Of course, prepare for the worst were a totalitarian state is implemented and don't idly stand by while despots do despotic things, stay sharp on your first aid and fitness, etc. I'm not so pacsifist that I'd advocate Inaction, but to say we're beyond the Point of No Return seems to be turning a blind eye to history.

Yours not wrong, and to an extent I see that as impossible.

I suppose what I'm looking for is a teardown / comparison video that doesn't have obvious slander direct bias against Trump. Like, a Johnny Harris style *pull off the back, "wait this looks a lot like this HTC phone I pulled apart", *grabs it, *starts comparing parts, etc would be great.

Edit: "slander" implies I'm claiming the video is speaking lies about Trump. I was in a hurry when typing up this comment, and that wasn't what I intended to say. Others pointed this out, so edited to clarify (with strike through over original text).

You not wrong. I wish I could get the family to square up with anything the administration has done without them instantly screaming "tRuMp DeRaNgEmEnT sYnDrOmE!1!"

No, I don't think so.

I think they've let themselves sit in an echo chamber that only affirms their prior assumptions for too long, and I think its going to be a painful process trying to pull them out.

But the logical consequence of the alternative is to either kill them or do a concentration camp on them. I find both of those to be morally reprehensible, so thisis me attempting the conversion route.

I think Morpheus described my rake on it pretty well (first 40 sec of link is the important bit): https://youtu.be/zDO1Q_ox4vk