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[–] 126 points 1 week ago (13 children)

And there are still people thinking this corrupt asshole would be a good US President.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    at this point i’d vote for a turd sammich if it wasn’t trump

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    That strategy has not worked the last 10 times we tried it, but maybe one more time will do the trick!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    bro compared to the last year of trump?

    a you fucking blind?

    we’ve lost 40 years of progress, congrats on your moral victory

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    And we lost to Trump. A campaign needs to be more than "I'm not Trump". Same shit almost lost Brazil to the fascists. "I'm not Trump" is good enough for informed voters, but that's not enough. You have to reach the uninformed and misinformed too.

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    For fuck sake. We are one year away from even thinking about primaries let alone the actual election, anyone propping him up is not thinking about Trump or Vance.

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    [–] 87 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    he's really cashing out at the end of his career isnt he. What a traitorous arsehole. People like him are why the democratic party is on the rocks.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Yep. I'm prepared to fight like hell in the primary, if we get one, to make sure he doesn't make it on the ballot. If we don't topple establishment leadership at the DNC this election though, they will force Newsom through regardless of what the primary shows, like with Bernie. The bigger fight is now.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I thought I heard the DNC already replaced its chairperson with someone more progressive

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Ken Martin, they promoted him from running Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor party, which is our local Democratic party and generally is a bit left of the national party. I don't know how progressive Martin himself is versus how much just kinda happened under him because of the party itself - Governor Tim Walz signed off on a lot of progressive stuff because he briefly oversaw a DFL trifecta and he and his party were willing to spend political capital to make good things happen but I wouldn't consider Walz to be super progressive on his own.

    Ken Martin is cause for a bit of optimism, he's more progressive, but he may just be an amorphous blob of whatever machine he's in front of.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Possibly-amorphous-blob is still better than an establishment centrist who will screw over progressives like they did to Bernie.

    There's a lot of leftward momentum right now, and as long as that isn't actively hindered from the top, then I think we have reason to hope.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Who would you like to see as the candidate in 2028? A lot of people like AOC but I'm not sure she runs in '28.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    I think it's too soon for her, I think she should take Chuck's Senate seat first, then run later. I don't know who, I feel like you can't trust anybody these days. If no one better is nominatted, she might have to run now, rather than later.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago

    Not as bad as a Republican can still be reay fucking bad.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Can someone explain to an outsider why this guy kept getting heralded as the next great Democrat leader? Every single thing I've read about him has been "Newsom deploys extra orphan crushing machines" and other nakedly Republican policies. Does he just have a huge bot farm working for him or something?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    He is charismatic and good looking and not poor or middle class, he makes richer, older people (ie. voters) feel good about themselves, and is a Democrat in California.

    None of those things are indicators of any kind of ethics or morality, but are all you need to become a politician.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago

    Just another corpo cuck who grandstands about "the good fight" or whatever on socials

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  • [–] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Fuck this guy.

    If he joined Trumps cabinet tomorrow I would not be surprised in the least.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    He is at the head of the Donorcrat party, because that lets him have a sustainable career. The Turdpublicans are the roman candle of conservative politics, burning brightly and burnt out swiftly.

    He basically wants to do this for the rest of his life:

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  • [–] 45 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    I'm never fucking voting for this man. Look at me neolibs, never. If you want to lose the next election pick this fucker. It'll be your fucking choice.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    and MAGA's creators and funders appreciate having guys in their pocket representing both parties.

    The presidential primaries aren't for ages yet. This is exactly the time to be campaigning for a better option. Giving it the "if you don't support this guy you're supporting MAGA" spiel at this stage is insane to the point of being a pro-MAGA position in of itself.

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    [–] 12 points 1 week ago

    Scumbag, loser, pathetic.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    So, he basically signs a bunch of new laws protecting private data, but because he did not sign one particular proposition, evil incarnate? People realize that this "vetoed" law is not one that existed, but a proposition for a law ... right? You should still have control of how your data is shared.

    It's not ideal, but seriously, man it's so easy to make people on Lemmy shoot themselves on the foot. People here will jump at anything to demonize if you even think of voting against Trump here even though he clearly is literally open corruption and the complete corrosion of the rule of law. Anything that diverts from the complete ideal is an excuse for the most corrupt administration to continue in power.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Based on what we know currently it is unlikely he is going to be running against Trump. Though not impossible he is running against a Trump proxy/someone who will later pull some maneuvers to get Trump the presidency again. And I guess the tiniest chance Trump directly runs again.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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    That's a safe stance. "We should kill all of the puppies!" Newsom: "I'm vetoing that!". /s

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    Gruesome Newsom strikes again

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    Sounds like his donors didn’t like it.

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  • [+] -19 points 1 week ago (22 children)

    If this fucking slime ball is the Democrat nominee in 2028 I’ll fucking vote for Trump 3 and the USA will have fucking deserved it. Jail this seditious traitor!

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago (20 children)

    Of all the shit-tier takes, that is one of them.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 week ago (19 children)

    I wouldn't vote for Trump 3, but I cannot afford to vote for this terf piece of shit. If this fucker or somebody similar succeeds, it's over for trans people having any sway over the Democratic party. I will push for his downfall no matter the cost. If liberals throw us under the bus in the hopes we can return to the good old days, burning the party will be the only card we'd have left play.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    I agree that Newsom is a billionaire-class anti-progress piece of shit, but this seems like a "cross the bridge when we come to it" situation. Progressives have a lot of momentum right now and there's a good chance the nominee in 2028 will be one.

    Attention is power in politics. Hating him gives him power. It's okay to critique and inform, but don't let it consume you. That's how trump got traction. If all we can offer to the political conversation is who sucks, then we're going to wind up with somebody who sucks.

    Focus on someone better. Who do you want to win the primary? Start extolling their virtues, spread the word. Who is an ideal candidate?

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  • Hey, I agree that Newsom would be an absolutely unmitigated disaster, but I’d vote 3P instead. I will never vote for a Republican in any US election, ever. Lincoln himself would be horrified at what his party was twisted into, especially in its most recent iterations.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

    Yes, but if republicans win they're gonna start rounding us up. The Dems can be influenced. Reps just want us all dead. One is better than the other. Not voting doesn't send a message, it's just surrendering to fascists.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    The Dems can be influenced.

    Tell that to the trans people who wanted an ally in the UK labor party. That's what Newsom, the New York Times, and all these other terfs want for us. It's not a good card to play, but if we aren't willing to make good on a threat, we have no power.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (10 children)

    Ok but the alternative is literally just let the republicans win. Do you have a viable alternative that isn't reforming the dem party via primaries and running progressives? Because to my knowledge that's the only way forward that doesn't involve system collapse which likely kills all the trans people first.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    The strategy is keeping terfs from winning the primaries; not voting for them in the general as a real threat is part of that. Besides, corprocrats winning is what will kill the system more than anything. If they prevent reform like the ruling class intends, we will keep getting fascists and they will keep getting worse. If you think Trump is bad, think about what Jewish conspiracy Nazis raised on Nick Fuentes will bring. Without a genuine progressive in the next election cycle, then the Nazis are guaranteed to win in 2032 and do more than if the Trumpians win in 2028.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Ok that's all well and good far as theory goes but practically speaking that's not particularly useful and, again, more or less defaults to the republicans winning which is unambiguously worse materially and practically speaking. We hold the democratic party accountable by primarying incumbents with progressives and preventing republican obstructionism. Any other option accelerates the fascism with the vague hope that it'll somehow foment a global socialist revolution. It's not really feasible. In fifteen years the fundamentalist ideologists completely overthrew the republican party and yet you all keep arguing we can't do the same with the dems. We could, if all of us voted in every election. It's not too late or they wouldn't be trying to prevent us from voting. Like I more or less agree with you philosophically but you've all already given up on change within the system, and that leaves the only option being total destruction of the system. Most of us die before that ever happens. Letting the worst option win is never the right call.

    Without a genuine progressive in the next election cycle, then the Nazis are guaranteed to win in 2032 and do more than if the Trumpians win in 2028.

    That's silly, if they win in 28 there won't be voting in 32. This is our last chance to avoid full fascist collapse. Republicans can never again hold enough power to obstruct a progressive agenda or the country will collapse and the only option for trans people will be to get out. There isn't going to be a global socialist revolution. The fascists have autonomous murder drones and we all are constantly surveilled. It'll mostly just get us all killed.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    That's silly, if they win in 28 there won't be voting in 32. This is our last chance to avoid full fascist collapse.

    Sorry, but the last chance to preserve liberal democracy was 2024. That result and the following liberal response to it convinced me that positive change will not happen until the public get more serious about challenging the system than they were during the progressive era. Until the socialists are have so much popularity that the liberals feel the need to compromise with us, they will never take a step in our direction.

    The oligarchs hold all the cards because we let them, perfectly playing on liberal hopes and dreams to keep them from actually demanding the policies we need. The make us vote for weak candidates so they can dupe working class conservatives into voting for people who actually acknowledge that shit is broken. If the controlled opposition candidates succeed, then they'll know our collars still perfectly secure.

    Setting the bar at global socialist revolution tells me that you buy their bullshit hook-line-and-sinker; that you would rather hold the left back than push the center forward. Nothing makes me more convinced that there won't be change than people who refuse to accept what stage of the game we're in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    If it was too late for voting to make a difference the republicans wouldn't be trying to take it from you. You shouldn't need any more motivation to keep them from power at all costs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Republicans aren't the end all be all enemy. A party can lose, but the oligarchs really can't unless we take one of the parties away from them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    There are less socialists than there are MAGAts. This country will kill every last trans person with a smile on its face before it ever has a socialist revolution. It's not in the realm of reality, whatsoever. Your best option here is total fascism leading to social collapse and hoping magically something socialist comes through the other side. If you're aware of literally any human history whatsoever you know that's not what's going to happen. I appreciate your philosophical position, but it's not realistically tenable. We all die and the country burns down first. So please, I would love nothing more than for one of you to explain how letting the republicans take total power is better. Like how does that play out in reality? What evidence is there to suggest that whatever you hope happens even could happen? Every republican needs to lose every election at any cost from here on out or we're all gonna die.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    You're the one setting the bar at socialist revolution; all I've ever claimed is that we should vote towards is compromise where liberals don't give billionaires everything they want. You're strawmaning me because you can't deal with my actual position.

    The worst part of all this is that Newsom isn't just a shitty Democrat; he's a fascist reject. The only thing that kept him from joining the Republicans was Trump personally disliking him. Unlike the Hakeem Jeffries of the party, he isn't even really a liberal anymore. The man who publicly sits at the table with a Nazi is a Nazi, and he really liked his talks with Charlie fucking Kirk. If it's Trump vs Newsom, it's fascist vs fascist.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago

    Translation: "Americans, please let actual fascism win and endanger every minority group in the country if the Democrat isn't perfect."

    No one likes Newsom and I think his chances of being the nominee in 2028 are fading, but if he is I will vote for him.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago

    this is from a month ago.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    This isn't necessary. All you need is to protect people from fraud.

    If Amazon tells you that it will sell your data you are completely free to just not use Amazon. If enough people choose not to use Amazon, Amazon will wonder why. If they do any semblance of at all good investigating they will find out it's because those prior customers were against having their data sold and they will stop selling data.

    The government only needs to come in to make sure Amazon is actually telling you it will sell your data, because not doing so is fraud, and the government should protect the innocent against fraud.

    As an adult, I don't need big daddy government telling businesses what they can sell. I only need to understand the situation I'm being presented in its entirety so that I can make my own decisions. It's my consent, not the government's.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Some days my PTSD is bad and my brain just feels... Slow. Like I'm stuck in molasses up there. Work feels harder. Things take longer to click. Honestly, when I feel like that, sometimes I feel a bit of imposter syndrome; a lot of things in my life rely on my intelligence, and I feel like I just don't belong. I'm so grateful to people like you reminding me, though, that even through brain damage, I'm still not the stupidest person in the room ❤

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That account is less than 10 days old and I already have them tagged as a rightoid. Every thread they're in, they're dropping these inane neoliberal/pro-capital takes.

    Who wants to place bets on their account disappearing after the election?

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