i have this conversation all the time.... the food is delicious, nutritionally complete.... OMAD, same food every day.

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[–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

This is NOT a balanced diet

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    By which you mean it's not healthy? What deficiency disease do you expect people following the carnivore zero fibre diet to get?

    It must be balanced; it gives all necessary nutrients and sufficient energy

    I think your speaking in code. I don't think "balanced diet" means anything specific

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    No fiber? I would say

    1. Colon cancer

    2. Constipation

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    And you'd be wrong on both counts.

    Science says more fibre causes more constipation and no fibre causes no constipation. My experience agrees. Shitting is easy on this diet.

    Food frequency questionnaire based epidemiology said processed meat caused cancer, but that study counted pizza as processed meat, perhaps the problem was tomato. Studies that can show causation have not been able to link meat and cancer.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    I'm not great on sources, sorry. I read stuff, absorb it, forget the origin. I do recall the strength of the sources though, and both claims are backed by pretty strong sources, especially the fibre one. Cancer might be from first principles and plus the weakness of the evidence of cancer risk, which has problems in methods, but even with those problems only managed a hazard ratio of less than 2. Real effects typically have hazard ratios over 4

    If you search in this community you'll probably find posts about each of those topics

    You may need to read research papers as this is a pretty science heavy community

    The YouTube videos posts are typically by MDs with clinical experience with keto and carnivore, most are pretty short, and all have AI summaries

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    @jet@hackertalks.com I think you know the more recent science on fibre, could you answer this human's comment that some national and university sites say fibre is important.

    We were talking about constipation, but I expect the links to point at gut health

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    This is NOT a balanced diet

    A "balanced diet" is a concession term when someone doesn't have grounded in nutrition. It just means "I don't know, a little bit of everything".

    A balanced diet includes alcohol - it's a poison.... what is the benefit?

    Carnivore is a nutritionally complete whole food diet with no deficiencies.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    a balanced diet does NOT include alcohol.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Balanced is a weasel word, it means whatever people want it to mean, it is an appeal to middle ground.


    Oh look, a balanced food guide allowing alcohol... oh heavens, looks like the international body on balanced nutrition is slipping.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ba8a50540f0b605084c9501/Eatwell_Guide_booklet_2018v4.pdf

    Alcohol also contains lots of calories (kcal) and should be limited to no more than 14 units per week for men and women

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    I tell my friends that food and water are similar to me now. When I'm thirsty I'll drink, and the water tastes and feels amazing. Once I'm not thirsty, I have no desire to drink any water at all and it doesn't taste particularly good either. I also don't think about water when I'm not thirsty. Food is exactly the same way.

    Usually this leads to a conversation about eating for pleasure, stress relief, or other reasons that are generally emotional.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Variety is the spice of life.... i used to believe that... now it just means i was missing something.

    i used to be a big boredom eater. now i know if i don't want food... i'm just not hungry... no more grazing for me.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 weeks ago

    Zero Carb - food noise goes away... whole food complete nutrition, no gaps.... if your food is boring after a day or two... it must be missing something.

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