Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, has called for Barack Obama and former senior US national security officials to be prosecuted after accusing them of a “treasonous conspiracy” intended to show that Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential election win was due to Russian interference.

She said Obama and senior officials in his administration had “[laid] the groundwork for … a years-long coup” against Trump after his victory over Hillary Clinton by “manufacturing intelligence” to suggest that Russia had tried to influence the election. That included using a dossier prepared by a British intelligence analyst, Christopher Steele, that they knew to be unreliable, Gabbard claimed.

The post-election intelligence estimates contrasted with findings reached before the election, which indicated that Russia probably was not trying to interfere. In extraordinary comments calling for prosecutions, she added: “The information we are releasing today clearly shows there was a treasonous conspiracy in 2016 committed by officials at the highest level of our government.

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[–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tulsi's actions aside, a politician who has flip-flopped on every issue known to man, so no surprise, it is shocking to me to see so many defend Obama. He is a self-proclaimed 'CENTRIST', which is basically a republican-lite who governed as such. His campaign injected by money from bankers, which is why he bailed them out and left the working class homeless during the housing crisis. He was the king of drone-bombing during his reign, killing lots of innocent women and children, then in ironic and laughable fashion was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. He created a healthcare system not on the backs of medicare like the progressives wanted, but built with the healthcare and insurance companies, which is why Obamacare today is as bad as it was before he created it, only now they force everyone into it else you get fined on your taxes. He was no working class hero, just another neo-liberal nightmare.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Obama had a supermajority for the first two years of his first term. The D's could have done anything yet did nothing. Then after they lost majorities they decided it was time to push their agenda but then had to make tons of concessions to Rs. Its either shitty governing or deliberatly failing to deliver policies the people wanted.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    They passed the ACA. It could have been done a lot better, absolutely. But it still did away with things like pre-existing conditions and provided health insurance to millions who previously had none.

    They created the CFPB with the Dodds-Frank act. The GOP has spent years since trying to kill it, but it still exists and the point stands.

    That's a far cry from "doing nothing". Or did you actually mean "I, personally, can't remember those years so I'm just going to say they did nothing."?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    I've got to wonder how old you are if you're going after the affordable care act like that. It was a bill that barely passed as is, even though they had to give a ton of consessions to Republicans to make it pass and it still did a lot for the average american.

    I don't think even Obama was happy with how it turned out, but something was better than nothing. In comparison you've had the Republicans continously erode that progress without having a single plan on how to fix it.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Let the side show of distractions begin!!!

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  • [+] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Won't be long until she's leading the newly created Ministry of Truth.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    That's an almost impressive level of making shit up.

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The Steele dossier was a massive DNC hoax though. They admitted as much already.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Don’t ya know? Only Democrats are allowed to make up conspiracies!

    Also worth mentioning that the investigation into the Steele dossier cost the country millions. Clinton green lit its fabrication & release. She should have to reimburse every cent.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Brother the russian collusion was out in the open what are we talking about

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago

    Ah, you missed the subnote where the media admitted they lied. Let me enlighten you:

    CNN: The Steele dossier: A reckoning

    When it came to light in January 2017, just days before Donald Trump took office, the so-called Steele dossier landed like a bombshell and sent shockwaves around the world with its salacious allegations about Trump and his supposed ties to Russia.

    The central allegations, that Trump conspired with the Kremlin to win the 2016 election and that Russia had compromising information on him, were given a veneer of credibility because they originated from a retired British spy, Christopher Steele, who had a solid reputation.

    But five years later, the credibility of the dossier has significantly diminished.

    A series of investigations and lawsuits have discredited many of its central allegations and exposed the unreliability of Steele’s sources. They also raise serious questions about the political underpinnings of some key explosive claims about Trump by shedding new light on the involvement of some well-connected Democrats in the dossier, and separate efforts to prod the FBI to investigate ties between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Fair. Liberals celebrated the lawsuit over claims of rigged Dominion machines. Morons never seem to grasp the concept of precedent.

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    [–] 72 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Even if this conspiracy theory was even remotely true, and not a distraction to protect the pedophile-in-chief, wouldn't Obama have immunity for everything he did as president based on Trump's precedent?

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  • [–] 113 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    So the Russian asset is accusing the Obama administration of falsely accusing Russia of something that everybody knows they not only did, but do as a matter of course?

    It's not even as if the accusations are particularly noteworthy, They explicitly did not accuse the Trump campaign of seeking out or cooperating with the Russian interference - they just accuse Russia of interfering. As they do in every election (and as virtually every major world power does in virtually every election everywhere).

    Trump is really desperate to shift attention away from Epstein, isn't he?

    And Gabbard is really driving home the point that she has absolutely no integrity, principles or ethics.

    Just another day in the decline and fall of the United States....

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    I thought Presidents are immune for acts done in their capacity?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Wow, pulling out the Obama card already to distract from Epstein?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You come after Obama and there will be hell to pay.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Really? Is that a sentiment American liberals really hold? Do you mean from Democrat politicians or from the general populace?

    For the former, I think they've more than demonstrated their inability to hold anyone to account. From Biden nominating Obama's milquetoast, consensus Supreme Court pick to Attorney General, who proceeded to seemly slow walk Donald Trump's multiple federal prosecutions just long enough to make them all irrelevant and eventually dropped. To the current Congressional Democratic leadership who seem to think leadership is just empty gestures and who appear to have learned nothing from dealing with Republican obstructionism, when the shoe was on the other foot.

    After the last six month though, I do have faith in Trump ability to exact revenge on this enemies and to get away with things previously considered to be an egregious overreach or illegal.

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  • Obama was president in 2016 and therefore everything he did or didn't do was perfectly legal. That's how it works now, right? Unless you want to talk about 2021?

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Wow, they're really trying to make this a thing. Fuck you Guardian and MSN:

    Shitty headline on MSN: Tulsi Gabbard Uncovers 'Treasonous Conspiracy' Within Obama Admin, Releases Bombshell Documents

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-uncovers-treasonous-conspiracy-within-obama-admin-releases-bombshell-documents/ar-AA1ISdLH

    Edit: Also this

    • Tulsi Gabbard declared her residency in Texas. Then she voted in Hawaii

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/politics/tulsi-gabbard-texas-hawaii-voting-residency-invs/

    • Tulsi Gabbard Described as 'Advanced Devotee' in Alleged Cult

    https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-science-identity-foundation-advanced-devoteee-hindu-1990506

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I’ll be blunt: the fact that Obama did NOTHING when I’m fairly fucking positive there was a LOT of intelligence indicating orangeboi was the Manchurian Candidate is utterly damning. He was so fucking concerned about optics that he refused to move when a nascent existential danger with hostile external support was clearly rearing its head.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    He was so fucking concerned about optics

    To be fair the media went apeshit because he wore a tan suit and used mustard on a sandwich!
    With Trump it's like: "Oh and Trump sexually assaults women willy-nilly because he thinks he is entitled to it. But that's OK because that's just who he is."

    If Obama had pushed for Trump to be arrested and accused on treason, USA might have ended up in civil war.
    That task was not for Obama to do, it was for the judicial and security services. And yes they failed, possibly because security services are generally overwhelmingly right wing.

    That said, I would have loved to see Trump in an Orange jump suit, he 100% deserves to be imprisoned for the rest of his life.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Then Trump was voted out 4 years later and voted back in again in 2024. People want a corrupt authoritarian ruling over them. Or at least they prefer that to a black lady.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    So this really is Obama’s fault?

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  • I don’t blame him for making the joke at orangeboi’s expense that evidently formed the kernel of spite and rage that made him decide to go for it.

    I DO blame him for not taking the threat he posed seriously. Especially considering this is the standard dynamic between our two parties - one follows the rules and conventions and etiquette and expected decorum and wrings their hands about not being able to do something… and the other one doesn’t fucking care and just does it anyways.

    So: yes.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is why Democrats lose elections Any excuse to cannibalize ourselves.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Democrats have made it clear they don't even have room for democratic socialists which is fair enough, they're liberals.

    They just don't get to also whine and bitch about solidarity when socialists criticize them for the laziness and crimes.

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    They just don’t get to also whine and bitch about solidarity when socialists criticize them for the laziness and crimes.

    What do you mean by "laziness and crimes"? You can't simultaneously believe in democratic socialism and gloat when you help bring Trump to power. Not without being entirely inauthentic.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Refused to move? What did you expect him to do?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    He could have gone to his old reliable drone strike.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    He seems to be rather desparate when you see what ideas he is throwing around to distract from his close relationship to Epstein.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Man, they are really panicking.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Tulsi doing her job as a Russian agent well.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Don’t distract from the wastebin named Trumps Term.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Controversial statements keep the dicks and dickettes alive in the news cycle. That's what you do when you have no plan, possess no ethics, and have no personality.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Aren't the current and past Presidents immune from their actions while in acting position, according to the Supreme Court?

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    🥱 more empty threats from MAGA.

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  • These things are not human. They have foresaken their own humanity in favor of their pursuit of power over others.

    This only ends with their deaths.

    Or ours.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The actual traitor is pointing fingers

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    good, actually. this is what i want from the pussy ass democrats. I'm so sick of them watching from the sidelines already doing nothing while a republican cunt ravages through the world, bring warcrimes and devastation, only for a fuckass obama type to get elected with promises of change, and pardon said warcrimes to signal that next time they're free to do it all over again. fuck you obama. i wouldn't even be sorry if this went through, maybe you'll see how it's done. I'll count it for obama's own warcrimes anyway.

    fuck Biden too. "he's a nazi. he's a fascist! he's an existential threat! oh here's the keys to the country by the way."

    disingenuous fucks. capitulators and collaborators. i hope Mamdani's election will signal a new era and the geriatric party, proud defense force of the status quo, will burn to the ground.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    There is no good reason why Mueller Report was forgotten in 2020. It said that Russian interference meetings with Trump (adoptions pretext) happened, but that sitting president could not be convicted of them. Biden/Garland election interference to keep Trump out of military jail in order to make the most neocon DNC candidates viable continuing the "stop Trump" election platform.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    garland was a no-brainer, hes a federalist, he wasnt going to do shit anyways, i dont know why people were mad that he is going to target someone like trump.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They spent a lot of time pretending to prosecute Trump during their administration.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    its called peformative politics, much like how conservatives and the gop "thanks the troops everytime" and yes they were just stringing the cases along, the dems thought that was enough to turn voters against trump and make gop unelectable, the thing is TRUMP thrives on BAD PRESS.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    she aired some of her grievances on a right wing asian youtubers channel(that turned right wing over the pandemic if followed the youtubers before) right before the election.

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As the Epstein shit does not gets away you can expect even more lunacy to be thrown around.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yes and we have a responsibility too. Don’t post the obvious distractions. If it is posted, don’t upvote, and if you can downvote. This is why he’s so annoyed. The distractions aren’t working. And we have to keep the focus on the hill he can die on (even if it eludes most of us how he didn’t die on it much much earlier).

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    Tulsi Gabbard must be tried for being a traitor and conspiracy to subvert democracy. If found guilty she ought to be drawn and quartered.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Also, what findings showed that Russia was not trying to interfere?

    There were tons of of online campaigns to sway voters, especially on Facebook.

    The had (still have, iirc) people in the nra and other lobbying groups.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Idiot Junior tweeted his own e-mails arranging quid-pro-quo interference for sanctions relief.

    Multiple campaign managers were Russian agents. That's not an accusation: they're now registered under FARA.

    The day after The Idiot fired Comey, he had a private Oval Office meeting with Russian spies. No American media was present. No American media was informed. We only know about them laughing it up thanks to the Russian photographers releasing the proof.

    I miss when there was an argument worth having.

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