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Starship Troopers Is the Perfect Movie for the Trump Presidency (www.currentaffairs.org)
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Starship Troopers Is the Perfect Movie for the Trump Presidency

Last month, Donald Trump posted the designs for a new set of dress uniforms for the United States Space Force—the newest branch of America’s military, which the first Trump administration created in 2019. A text accompanying the AI-generated concept art described the regalia as “inspired by the discipline and functionality of the Starship Trooper Uniform.”

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[–] 6 points 3 weeks ago*

Nazis imitating art imitating Nazis.

I'd like to know more.

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    [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    a mockery of Nazi ideologies?

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    [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    altr

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    [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    I'm sorry but are you implying that Trump has a brain (Not only do I have a brain but its the biggest brain there is. Its huge. Just look at it. You wouldnt get these brains had you reelected biden or Obama...)

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    • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago

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    [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I am literally in the middle of watching Starship Troopers right now. I have no idea how long it's been since I've seen it.

    For me as an American, its incredible accuracy makes it entertaining AND horrifying!

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (3 children)

    For me as an American, its incredible accuracy

    Ha! The guns in that movie SUCK and look super lame, our guns are higher caliber and look badass so NOT like the US AT ALL.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    They tried.

    The XM-8 rifle was deliberately designed to - and I quote - 'make it look Starship Troopers'

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    The big problem was it ended up looking and feeling closer to the M4 it was meant to replace, and not enough like the legendary Morita that Major Brigadier General John James Moran had demanded.

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    • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Idiocracy is much better.

    In the end, the US President marries a prostitute. Everything is misspelled. That was written over 20 years ago.

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    • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    I think Jojo Rabbit (2019) is a better fit

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    [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    that plus idiocracy

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    • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Service don't guarantee citizenship

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    the military has always used POCs immigrants so they dont end up using upper middle class, well off or rich white people. the upper echelons of rank is preserved for the rich white people though.

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    • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Want to know more?

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    [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I could swear there's a third one were the leader nukes Mars for ratings.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Nah, they nuke some random moon after meeting bug Jesus and deciding bug Jesus needs to die. Also bug Jesus is mind controlling the leader of the humans.

    I think the only part of the third one that's worth mentioning is that the guy that gets 'elected' leader of humanity is a pop star who sings songs about dying gloriously in war. And he's releasing albums while running the show.

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    • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

    You should definitely read the book if you haven't.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

    The book is completely different. The book promotes doing your civic duty and loyalty to the military, while the movie satirizes the message into something a bit more realistic and relatable.

    Slightly related note: if you enjoy Starship Troopers (either the movie or the book), you should read Armor by John Steakley. It has a similar premise to Heinlein’s novel in that there is a war, there are bugs, and there are troops wearing power armor exoskeletons, and both books are on the military reading list, but that’s where the similarities end. Armor focuses more on the PTSD war inflicts on combatants, being dropped into life or death situations and watching the people around you die. It’s an action / horror type novel and it’s fantastic.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Heinlein wrote the book after hearing news that the US was stopping nuclear testing and it rustled his jimmies.

    The society he envisioned is thoroughly influenced by his experience in the US Navy during WW2 but also very much from the perspective of a no-fooling boot nerd who was all in on militarism with absolutely no amount of critical thought applied to his vision or consideration for what that society would become even if you assume it could exist in the first place.

    So, tl;dr Heinlein didn't write a pro-fascist book, Verhoeven famously didn't even read the book, and yet he was still right about what that society would have become if it ever existed.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    There may be that, but he also wrote The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, which weirdly, goes into explicit detail about how to run your own terrorist network. Like when they started explaining the cell model, I thought it was just gone be a brief thing for the book, but then it goes into explicit direction on how to structure the cells to keep them from collapsing due to member capture.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    "Not really" what? I was just making a suggestion for people to read it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Yeah, but the book and the movie have very different messages. The book is an argument for why a militarist statocracy (which is fascism adjacent to the point they arent neighbors, they're roommates) is the ideal form of government.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (4 children)

    Why does that change anything? I just want people to know that the book is good. I always took it as a satirical take on militarism.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    The movie is satirical, the book is not. It is completely serious. You see similar themes in other works by Heinlein.

    Edit: also this is why musk named his AI after a word coined by Heinlein.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Ah, but that's one take. I took it differently.

    Thanks for your perspective.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    I mean it simply wasn't intended to be satirical. I'd call it more pro-classical republic than fascism though.

    Actually has a quite a lot in common with Machiavelli's vision of the ideal republic now that I think about it, which tracks with a literature nerd from the 40's.

    Of course, Mussolini and Gentile were literally inspired by Machiavelli's works to try and "reform Rome" so...

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    • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    wouldnt it be gilead/idiocracy. in idiocracy the society was controlled by an AI 500years later. mass surveillance , the memnarch(mtg) wannabe of thiel.

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