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[–] 91 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

Gavin Newsom is the epitome of the liberal elite who talk the talk but don't walk the walk. He criminalizes homelessness instead of working to address its systemic causes and is deep in the pockets of corporate and wealthy donors. His whole appeal is just posturing against Trump. It boggles my mind that my mom likes the guy.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    As a non-Californian I used to like him but that's because all the news coverage I saw was positive and focusing on thE "talk the talk".

    Then I started to see more that was critical of his actions and my opinion changed.

    It seems like the increased attention since January over his posturing seems to have highlighted his shortcomings too.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Millions of beds in homeless shelters have been built with his programs, yes, he does the bullshit harm tactics, but he's spent way more money on real solutions than any other CA governor. One of the attack points Republicans have come up with is attacking him on the ''rise in homelessness by millions'' what they don't say is that this stat is coming from the millions of homeless people who are now being counted as they have shelters to sleep in. They are calling it a rise because the number isn't a guess anymore because they have shelter. Don't fall for the bullshit. We have to not punish the politics that are actually spending money where he want it.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    This article is how I learned that Ken Jennings is now hosting the show. IIRC, that was the dude who had the longest win streak in the history of the show, wasn't he?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Judges will allow this answer since it is in the form of a question. A better answer would have been "Who had the longest running streak on Jeopardy?"

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "You know who had the longesht running shtreak in my bedroom, Trebek? Your mother." - Sean Connery

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    He is actually a pretty amazing host - better than Alex was in some ways. Extremely personable with the contestants, funny, offers context on some clues because he knows so much, and you can tell the contestants have genuine respect for him because he's been there and succeeded better than anyone.

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  • [–] 79 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    The absolute worst thing we can do is settle for a neoliberal.

    Because if we do, and they win the general, they get to install cro ies in the DNC after the election.

    We need AOC regardless of if she thinks she's ready, sometimes you just gotta jump out of that plane.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (26 children)

    They will do just what they did to Sanders. DNC will not allow AOC to be the nominee.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    What an ignorant statement....

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe learn about something before you comment on it?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's an ignorant statement, because it ignores how much has changed since the January DNC chair...

    They didn't know about that.

    The comment is ignorant.

    Next time ask if you don't understand something, most of the time I'd have blocked you first instead of replying.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It’s an ignorant statement, because it ignores how much has changed since the January DNC chair…

    Yeah, since they got their brand new chair who has instantly fixed everything just as long as you don't actually look at what the party is doing, they've ousted David Hogg and tried to force through cuomo in a primary.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Sanders and Noam Fucking Chomsky himself started spouting neo-liberalism bullshit, and AOC just voted against stripping funding to Israel from 2026 "defense" act.

    They ain't the heros you're looking for.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Yes they are. No candidate is perfect, and they are far better than any of the others.

    Don't let perfect stand in the way of good.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Centrists, call us when you find these "good" candidates who can win a majority of a vote, and until then sit down and let us handle cleaning up your mess, without your constant yammering.

    Thats about the least you could do to help at this point, so do that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What’s your plan for cleaning up the mess? Let me know how I can help!!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    not elect any more zionists for starters, and elminate any dem reps taking checks from them. Ocne we start taking out the trash of the bad dems, they will udnerstand they work for us and start kissin our ass instead of donors.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    We haven't gotten to cleaning the mess yet. Your mess, we're in it now.

    You all insisted on voting for a non viable right wing candidate and she lost. The numbers have been out long enough for you to make a correct conclusion: people didn't vote for Trump over Kamala, they just rejected fascism-light from the Democrats and stayed home.

    Liberals love slogans like "Believe in science," "Love is love," or "Black Lives Matter." But these mantras are pasted onto a system that jails Black and brown youth at staggering rates, exports death through drone strikes and sanctions, and props up apartheid regimes like Israel with billions in aid. Kamala Harris, as California’s "Top Cop," made a name for herself by locking up poor people, defending death row convictions tainted by misconduct, and laughing off truancy policies that disproportionately harmed working-class families. She literally argued in court that the state would "lose a source of cheap labor" if incarcerated people were released early. And yet, liberals who marched under banners reading "ACAB" in 2020 did backflips to justify their support for her.

    Why? Because identity politics, stripped of any materialist critique, has become the liberal religion. It's a shallow representation game: so long as a candidate checks certain demographic boxes, they’re granted moral immunity from the violence they enact. A woman bombing Yemen is better than a man bombing Yemen, apparently. A Black VP rubber-stamping military aid to Israel is a milestone of inclusion, even as Gaza burns.

    And here lies the grotesque irony. Liberals chant about systemic racism, but refuse to confront the systemic violence upheld by the very leaders they support. They denounce ICE, but back an administration that continues deportations and funds border militarization. They wave rainbow flags while voting for a VP who until recently held archaic positions on same-sex marriage. They scream about reproductive rights, but ignore how imperial policies abroad strip countless peoples of even the right to live.

    Real leftist politics demands we dismantle the structures that Kamala Harris has spent her entire career fortifying. It requires we see through the illusion of liberal "progress" and recognize that the carceral state, imperial hegemony, and racial capitalism do not become humane just because a woman of color is in charge of them. That’s not justice.

    We'll clean up the mess, but it's gonna get messier first. You can choose to join us in cleaning up the mess, or you can waste your energy fighting on behalf of Gavin Newsom or whichever unpopular objective piece of shit the DNC forces down your throat next time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I don't think anyone will read that, but I did. The thing is, you're not really wrong. But you aren't going to appeal to anyone like that.

    Do you just want to be angry? Do you just want to yell? I feel that.

    Personally, yes, I would rather have had non-Trump than Trump. There weren't really any other viable options besides Kamala when I voted. No third party vote would've saved us, even if I convinced literally everyone I know to do the same. But Kamala was much better than Trump, and you brought up good reasons why. She can be bullied into being better. Heck, Gavin Newsom can be bullied into being better. I don't really like either of them, but I have limits to what I can affect, and I chose that which I could.

    Unfortunately, it's everyone's mess. We all have to clean it up. I didn't cause it. Heck, even people that don't live here probably have to help, and they're the least to blame for it. But, that's kinda how it works. Start small, and go from there.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Fuck your good that includes making sure your children are wage slaves while your taxes slaughter children in Palestine. That's not good, you just don't give a fuck that the people YOUR TAX DOLLARS slaughter for your comfort are far away.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Who’s your perfect candidate? If there’s someone better I’ll happily back them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    There is no perfect candidate because both parties are actively fighting progressivism. What you do is hold your nose and vote for the one who won't try to eradicate anyone they don't like from the country and then show up to your local democratic party/club every meeting they have and be actively pissed off at the lack of progressivism. Bitching on the internet does nothing, trying to argue about the best candidate does even less.

    Make it known what you want in your community and build a coalition in agreement

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I agree. I’d just like to hear from the poster above if there’s a single politician that meets their standards, or are they just giving up and using this line of argumentation to justify their own lack of action.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Spoken like someone who is happy with the status quo. Whats your set of ideas champ, since you are all throwing these stones, lets see your answers, beyond sitting on your rear?

    Go ahead. You do this to everyone else, lets hear your ideas.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Of course I’m not happy with the status quo. I plan to vote in the primary for the candidate who best matches my own values. I don’t know who that is yet.

    All I’m seeing in this thread is arguments why we shouldn’t vote for this person or that, and not a single person willing to say there’s a candidate good enough that they’d bother to vote. I just want a fucking example of what good enough is. I’d vote for AOC or Bernie despite their flaws, but I’d love to have even better candidates to choose from.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can't elect a perfect candidate from two fascist parties. Step one is to realize you don't owe them a vote, and they must give you a viable candidate before you give them your vote.

    The Democrats are not your friends, you're letting them ruin the world and describing it as good.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    You might be right, they might block her. I've been shocked at how much they are willing to protect themselves from Progressives, but that's not why Bernie never got the nomination. Bernie never got the a Democratic nomination because he's NOT a Democrat.

    Bernie is an Independent, and has always been a staunch Independent. He may caucus with the Dems, but he doesn't fundraise for them, he doesn't share his campaign money with them, he doesn't support them. Over the decades, he has been nearly as critical of Democrats as he was of Republicans.

    The Presidential nomination is the greatest gift a party can bestow upon a party member, and they are going to give it to a loyal member who has worked hard for the party, NOT an outsider who is just hijacking the party's infrastructure to use it to ride to victory, and support policies that the party doesn't support.

    Bernie wasn't nominated because he wasn't a Democrat. AOC is a loyal Democrat, and if she gets the primary votes, and the DNC still won't nominate her, then that's the end of the Democratic Party. Dems shouldn't be so worried about that, the Republican Party died about a decade ago, and became the MAGA Party. It happens, parties die, and new ones pop up.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The party rewarded Leiberman with a VP nod. He wasn't a member of the party either, but I guess he returned the favor by blocking the public option for them.

    Bernie wasn’t nominated because he wasn’t a Democrat. AOC is a loyal Democrat, and if she gets the primary votes, and the DNC still won’t nominate her, then that’s the end of the Democratic Party.

    Or we'll see you come up with a new excuse for the party ignoring its own rules again.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    First of all, VP isn't president. Also, Lieberman had been a Democrat for most of his career, except the very end when he turned Independent, so maybe there was some dumb Democratic idea that this would bring him back to the fold.

    In any case, it didn't work, and they lost the race, in part because many Democratic voters weren't thrilled with Lieberman, whom many saw as a turncoat for leaving the Dems and going independent. So choosing an independent certainly didn't inspire the Dems to ignore their rules in the future.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nominating AOC or Sanders would be equivalent to the Democratic Party conceding the election to the Republican Party. The chance of either winning a presidential election is functionally close to nill.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Bruh, Hillary Clinton managed to win the popular vote in 2016. Sanders or AOC are not automatically disqualified from forming a winning coalition in light of that.

    "Just go left and you'll automatically win 😊" idiocy from people on Lemmy is incorrect, but "Leftists can never win, no matter what!" is fucking stupid as well.

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    ITT: centrists whining because a minor celebrity shows solidarity with a vulnerable minority.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Fuck Newsom.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'm more interested in what Wink Martindale thinks, but it's too late for that.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    It shines a spotlight on the fact that Newsome has suddenly pivoted on this transgender issue. (basically as a precursor to running for president) And people should know that this shithead has no actual integrity and will do or say whatever it takes to get the conservatives to like him more for the general election (he's pretty confident that Dems will choose him regardless of his policies apparently.) So, if he's altering his policy on transgender youth, it almost certainly means that he's gonna attempt the Democrats continually failing strategy of appealing to conservatives.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    If he was saying that newsom was right to throw trans people under the bus where you think they belong, you wouldn't be griping.

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  • [+] -4 points 1 year ago (17 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Who’s griping?

    You, among others.

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  • [+] -2 points 1 year ago* (15 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

    And yet you're still griping because Ken Jennings of all people isn't anti-trans enough for you.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (13 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Well, look. You're clearly griping about this post existing at all. It has to have something you don't want anyone else to read, or you would just downvote and move on. Instead, you decided to whine about it.

    You're expending a lot of energy for something you allegedly don't care about, and it's clear that you just don't want others to care about it. And since the thing you totally don't care about is Jennings saying that he doesn't like newsom because newsom decided that trans people belong under the bus, what other conclusion should I draw?

    Please, stalk my comment history some more if it makes you feel superior to those who don't hate trans people enough for your liking.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (11 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Gaslighting is abuse and you should stop.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Dude, you just spent a huge post saying I'm mentally ill because I disagree with your anti-trans whining about Ken Jennings. No matter how you slice it, that's gaslighting.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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    Wrong- yet again. I made a single statement on the fact that you are obsessive about telling people what they are doing.

    Everyone can scroll up and see the comment in which you repeatedly called me mentally ill. You're doubling down on the gaslighting.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    You gaslight people.

    And after two bouts of gaslighting, we have progressed to DARVO. I haven't said that your disagreement with me is due to mental illness, because I don't believe it is. I believe your motives aren't the ones you've stated, as your behavior is inconsistent with the motives you've stated. Making a big hairy deal about not caring isn't something that someone who actually doesn't care does.You're still expending a lot of energy in a thread about an interview with a minor celebrity that you don't care about.

    If you want me to directly interact with your arguments, you should have made one in the first place.

    Meanwhile, at least one person who didn't know before has found out that newsom is willing to throw trans people under the bus in order to appear accommodating to a right-wing bigot that newsom invited on his own podcast. That's a win in my book. The more people know what a piece of shit newsom is willing to be, the fewer will support him and maybe we'll get a candidate worth supporting instead.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Seriously. It’s not news. That’s my opinion. I don’t care what game show hosts think of what is happening in the world. It’s irrelevant- plain and simple.>

    If you don't care, why are you still bothering with this thread? Why didn't you just downvote and move on instead of whining about it? Your behavior is at odds with your claims, and more consistent with someone who doesn't like people criticizing newsom.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I don’t care about his opinion, I DO care about news. It is my opinion that his opinion isn’t news.

    At least one person in this thread found out from the article that newsom threw trans people under the bus. It was news to them.

    I won’t apologize that this upsets you.

    I won't apologize that a minor celebrity showing solidarity with a vulnerable minority upsets you.

    And why do you care about what I think?

    I don't like it when people whine about the presence of solidarity instead of its absence.

    My time is back in my possession.

    Until some other minor celebrity maliciously likes trans people at you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Are you saying his opinion doesn't matter because he's a game show host? What do you know about his qualifications? Have you ever looked him up?

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
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    You're invalidating his opinion by creating false criteria (being "news") then failing it arbitrarily. You're not offering definitions or reasoning, so I'm asking some leading questions to give you a chance to redeem yourself.

    But instead of answering, you backpedaled. So now you are dismissed.

    Hitchens's razor: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

    Bye bye :)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I really don’t care who he’s not supporting. I want to know who he IS supporting.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's kind of related, though. He used to support trans kids until he felt like it might affect his electability. If he isn't willing to stand by his morals, he is only supporting the money.

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