The problem with war, is that there isn't really an "off" switch. Which is why it's fucking stupid to start one.
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If the headline asks a question, the answer is no.
Trump won't care.
The tool proposed is government shutdown. And I'll say it again, Trump won't care. He thinks this is his Magnum Opus and he won't stop.
lol. Lmao even.
We do have a chance of Schumer writing a strongly worded letter slamming trump though
Schumer? Shut down a war the Israelis wanted and coerced out of Trump? This Schumer?:
“I have many jobs as [Senate] leader... and one is to fight for aid to Israel — all the aid that Israel needs,” Schumer said
I doubt there will even be a letter.
Schumer : I want to end the war but I do not want to vote for the concessions necessary to end the war
While we should never underestimate the Democrats' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, there may be some legs to this one.
The politics of these shutdowns is always to try and get the public to pin the blame on one side or the other. If Democrats take over the House, they control its agenda, and can simply make sure that no bill that includes funding for the Iran war gets passed. But, at some point a bill to fund the military will need to be passed, as an overwhelming majority of military spending is subject to appropriations. Thus means that the House is certain to pass a bill, with no funding for the Iran war, and Republicans have three choices:
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filibuster it in the Senate (in which case Senate Republicans will be blamed, whether or not they are in the majority)
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veto it (in which case Trump directly will be blamed)
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sign it but still bomb Iran anyway (in which case Democrats now have an open-and-shut case for impeachment that might actually work)
This war is extremely unpopular, and is a key part of the reason why Republicans are doing as poorly as they are. As vile as the Venezuela thing was, if Trump had stopped thereand not gone to Iran, then the Senate would likely not be in play. I think Republican Senators might finally be realizing that. If an impeachment resolution were to make it to the Senate right now, I think it would pass today, and that means it has even better chances of passing in the new Congress if Democrats take the Senate.
If an impeachment resolution were to make it to the Senate right now, I think it would pass today
Not a fucking chance. Republicans have had every opportunity to ditch Trump with very little political fallout. All they needed was to have Susan Collins or one of the other supposedly not crazy Republicans vote with Democrats. They have categorically refused to do so on multiple occasions. They are on the Trump train until it fully goes off the rails.
The key difference this time, though, is that Trump is stepping directly on their power. The sanctions bill was passed, with bipartisan support, and he is just ignoring it. If an impeachment were to go the Senate over this, how can the Senate basically say "Yeah, we passed this law and he signed it, but it's OK that he's ignoring it now"?
I mean, they named the bil after Graham. I bet they all take it personally.
Congress holds the power of the purse and the ability to declare war. Why is this different than Trump stealing those powers? He's done both on multiple occasions.
Yes, but when he has done both before, it has always been in line with what the majority party wants, even if it is illegal. For instance, ever since Grover Nordquist stated out loud that he wanted to "make government so small you could drown it in rhe bathtub", Conservatives fantasized about just firing them all, but all those pesky laws got in the way. Their solution was to elect someone who didn't give a damn about what was legal, and then let him do all the dirty DOGE work without actually having to vote on it. The Republican majority is simply letting him do all the illegal shit, in the hopes that it deflects any future blame from themselves.
But this is different. This is Congress specifically voting for the President to do something, and the President agreeing to do it, then saying "Sike!" And not doing it. If allowed to stand, it makes Congress irrelevant. The Senate, in particular, takes their job seriously. If an impeachment resolution makes it there over this key point, voting against it is basically voting to dissolve their own power.
In particular, if Democrats do very well in the midterms, you may find Trump chickening out of this one, too. Because would the Senate still impeach if the President backs off on the infringing behavior? Even a month or two of lifting sanctions might give Russia enough cash to make a difference, after all.
...After a fair and impartial trial of course! They cant get a fair one in the Us so I suggest we did it at the Hague, where these sorts of trials belong. We'll need some judicial contributions from outside the US justice system too which is a complete joke.
A few sternly worded letters, a Tik Tok video, and a marathon floor speech should do it.
Ha, thanks for the laugh to start my day. Reporter is confused... only the vast majority of voters want the Iran War to end, nobody wants us fighting in Iran, Democrat, Republican, and Independent voters all agree.
Not the representatives.
Like Medicaid for all, higher minimum wage, billionaire taxation, weed legalization, term limits, age limits, and so forth, only voters want those things.
Not "Dems" in office, nor "Reps". Their job is to continue to make excuses to voters as to why they can't have what the want.
If you want to know what Ds and Rs in office find important, it's imperative that you don't listen to what they say. That's silly.
Look at what they do. Look at what the results of their actions are.
What do they find important? Union membership should drop. Wages should stay low. Healthcare should be as expensive as possible. Corporate profits should go up. Taxes on the wealthy should be laughably low.
These are the things our reps want... the things that are as they are are that way because the reps have decided that it should be so.
They could fix any of these issues that are popular with voters virtually overnight. All they need is a simple majority vote (not a super majority; that's a joke and not the law, parliamentary rules are not law and can be changed at will).
They choose not to give the voters what they want.
Jeffries sucks, we all know it.
Congressional Democratic leaders have not said whether they are willing to risk a shutdown, however. Jeffries did not tip his hand when he was asked during a recent interview with CNN.
“Listen, we’ll deal with the appropriations process when we deal with the appropriations process,” he said. “Right now, the mechanism that is in front of us will be to aggressively move war powers resolutions until we end this war in the best interest of the American people.”
If you WANT them to End it you MUST vote in the MIDTERMS Presidential ELECTION! NEXT Midterms! NEXT Presidential Election!
-People who wonder why the DSA is SURGING!
Most, if not all, of the Dems in Congress are AIPAC shills, so no. At best they'll pretend to try and then act like they're stymied by some asshole doing a filibuster, or some excuse like the "parliamentarian says no" horse shit.
Dems do whatever Israel wants. Israel wants Americans fighting their war on Iran. So theres not a chance in frozen hell the Dems will end it. It will be interesting to see the theatre they pull to make it look like they tried. I've got 5 bucks on "parliamentarian" again. A classic.
Don't pass funding bills, up to and including a government shutdown, to halt the war financially.
People are calling them chicken already, buy few seem to recall the last shutdown - longest ever - didn't materially stop anything, either, as everything else is deprived of money to the priority of defense.
Yet another mastabatory dogpile on dems. Not that it's undeserved, but I fail to understand what this achieves other than perpetuating animosity.
Establishment zionist dems support the Iran war and like that they can criticize how it is carried out from the sidelines. Look for several establishment dems running on finishing the war "the right way" in 2028. Or just lying that they will end it and then carrying on with the same policies, maybe even a "surge", like Obama did with Iraq and Afghanistan.
They will not. When the mou was first announced top leaders did not like t
“How can we keep blaming brown people for the massive dumpster fire that the Republicans created?”
Dems are only upset with the Iran war for 2 reasons.
- Trump is losing
- Didn't let them give him permission to do what generations of politicians on both sides have wanted to do since the 70s revolution
Long answer:
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Not likely this is very much a bipartisan war even if democrats are upset we are losing.
They will for sure try to partisan, let bygones be bygones, and olive branch the fuck outta everything. You know, exactly how we fucking don't want them to act toward the party of traitors, pedophiles, and sycophants.
But I'd rather have that than the Orange Plague running roughshod over the Constitution without any pushback.

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