Wait... are vibe coders jerkin' it while the LLM codes for them?
Is that why they're so defensive?
Wait... are vibe coders jerkin' it while the LLM codes for them?
Is that why they're so defensive?
In some cases you even set rules in advance and give direction during.
I love this term, cuck coding ....chef kiss
it would be cuck coding if you didn't constantly have to answer questions and steer the pile of shit...
it's like a form of cuck coding where the bull keeps asking which position to do her in and if you have any specifications for the speed and if the girth is well sized
Ooh yeah baby. Look at your whole service layer getting filled in.
Nnh... nnh... yeah modularize all of it. Yeahh so hot
Weak criticism of AI. You could make this same meme about just hiring a human coder, either way you're letting the code be done by some(thing, one) that isn't you
Edit: Guys I am on your side, simply giving constructive criticism. I don't care if you don't like it, but don't tell me that I'm with AI just for having an opinion
How's your chair? Comfortable? Do you have a good view?
I don't agree with vibe coding, I'm just saying that it's a weak analogy
A better thing to criticize is the credit aspect. They think that telling AI what to make means that they made it, so we should criticize that
Nah, it's still cuck behavior. This isn't a criticism. It's an insult.
This is shitpost my friend. This is no place for deep thoughts, thorough analysis or emotional response.
I agree but downvoted for no Oxford comma
No, bad finding I'm on your side
You can't take constructive criticism?
You canβt take constructive criticism?
Hey, what I gave is different than what I'm getting. All I said was that the criticism was weak, and now you're all assuming that I'm suddenly with AI
I don't care if you disagree. My pet peeve is being told what I think and what I am
I donβt care if you disagree.
And yet here you are, getting upset that people didn't like what you said.
My pet peeve is being told what I think and what I am
Then may I suggest that disagreeing with people on a technicality isn't going to end well for you, and you're going to need a thicker skin if you do.
Also, if you want to win back the room, apology lands better than defensiveness.
This is what I mean
You're doing it again, telling ME what I THINK
That's the only issue that I have
Like or don't like what I say. I'm cool with that
But DO NOT misrepresent me and what I stand for. Do not mistake me for something that I am not
I am not an AI supporter. That's all I want to make clear. I am not what you say I am. That's why I'm upset, not if you agree or disagree with what I'm saying
Just stop mischaracterizing me
Do you understand? I am not upset about being disagreed with
I am not sorry for anything, because I never had a problem with what you claim my problem is. I am fundamentally being misunderstood and that's what pisses me off
Youβre doing it again, telling ME what I THINK
I struggle to find any text that I wrote that supports this assertion.
I am not an AI supporter. Thatβs all I want to make clear.
All I'm saying is that if you want to make that clear, maybe arguing on a technicality on an anti-AI post muddies the water a bit. Read the room a bit.
Also, if you want to win back the room, apology lands better than defensiveness.
I am not sorry for anything,
Like I say, that's not winning you any friends, and of you blame everyone else but yourself for the reaction to what you said, you will continue to get similar reactions in the future.
because I never had a problem with what you claim my problem is
I claim that your problem is that disagreeing with a moderately popular anti AI post on a technicality got folks arguing with you and you aren't well placed to handle the fallout.
I am fundamentally being misunderstood and thatβs what pisses me off
As someone who is upset at people misunderstanding them, you're sure spending a lot of energy complaining about what you assume I think about your viewpoint on AI, when in fact I believe I made no claim or assumption whatsoever about what you believe about AI, just about what you said and how you said it.
And yet here you are, getting upset that people didn't like what you said
I was never upset about them not liking what I said
That's where you misunderstood me
I know that you in particular did not misunderstand me on my AI stance, but you did misunderstand me on what was annoying me
But now that you've made it clear, thank you for having an appropriate counterpoint
This kind of shit happens to me a lot as an autistic person and you were just here to see the camel's back break in a space where I can anonymously show more negative emotions with less shame. As for reading the room, boy I have room literacy just not an online-friendly amount of it :/
That last bit made me chuckle. Sorry if made it harder to disentangle.
You either die a flamewar or live long enough to see yourself become the friends
Something something yellow name [MERCY] [SPARE]
It's a bad opinion that is taking too seriously a shitpost. It's like you are summoning downvotes honestly. I'm risking the well being of my account just for writing this comment.
Seriously, what kind of relationship do these people have with code. They are equating coding with the act of sex, but the code is something they are creating... So, they are upset about cucking but perfectly fine with the whole insect aspect?
My dude, you're on Lemmy. You can't go waving your own opinions around. You gotta repeat what the hive mind says.
I thought that was Reddit, why even come here then π
The entire internet is made up of hive minds these days. There's no escaping that. At least Lemmy's hive mind isn't payed for by corporate shills. It might be a bit weird,but its real... mostly.
Also there really is room to voice your opinion here, whatever your opinion is. You just have to find the right communities that fit you or even make your own place and that's the nicest thing about thing about this platform.
I see your point, but it's still funny and apt because all the hype around LLM coding is that it can replace human coders with inhuman ones.
As soon as this meme dropped there were like 12 big anti-AI accounts that immediately installed this like the latest personality update. Itβs EVERYWHERE doing the βupvotes pleaseβ thing
My project and I were having problems, but opening things up and bringing in Claude has reignited the fire we once had. We're committing changes like it's our first week together again and adding features we never would have thought of adding before. Some people make fun of me when they see Claude's commit messages in my project, but I'm confident enough in my programming abilities that I don't let it bother me. I know my project and I have something special.
but Iβm confident enough in my programming abilities that I donβt let it bother me. I know my project and I have something special.
π₯Ά Linux (and therefore me) is gonne be so fucked in five years when they (like every project on the ai hype train) can't understand the spaghetti code (including future ai).
Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I trust Torvalds. The same can't be said about the typical vibe-coder, though.
Tbh I trusted him up until the point where he compared AI to compilers. That's just absolutely crutial misunderstanding where the issues with AI usage lies. Comparing using compiler to code, vs using AI to code, is so immensly stupid that I have started doubting him.
Not because I don't trust in his skill, but because AI is addicting and dealing with additction/risk of psychosis responsibly takes an entirely different skillset. And resorting to toxicity when defending AI with absolutely bonkers arguments, like reducing it's risk to "ShOuLd We AlSo bAn CoMpIlErS? WrItE iN aSeMbLy!!" is not a good sign that he is handling it well.
And he even compared it to using a fucking text editor to write commit messages, that wanting to limit AI use in commited code is the same as wanting to ban text editor usage. That's just plain insane misunderstanding of what the issues are.
WrItE iN aSeMbLy!!
What!! You would use an assembler to make binaries to run on a general purpose machine code interpreter instead of using an atomic knife and a salt-accelerator to write the instructions on a silicon die?
Albsoluridonculoustrous!
But honestly, if he is saying that, I now have a good reason to assume he can't be trusted with having proper logic in the kernel.
IIRC one big problem with using AI code in Linux was license of created code. If that is somehow fixed, which is not the case, then it might at least be fine for those coming in the future.
I don't think it's actual misunderstanding, it's ignoring the real issues. He is focusing only on the technical side of the problem (as if that's the only criticism people have about AI) and I fear his pretending there's no ethical, societal and economic problems is deliberate - as opposed to an oversight. If you look at the number of influential former AI critics/skeptics recently changing their tune like Linus, it looks to me like they are simply all buying bought up.
You have good reason to trust him. Trusting the future however is a losing game.
Yeah, there's a distinction between using an LLM as a tool and letting the LLM be in control.
No, the kernel will be understood or replaced extremely quickly. This is the beauty of open code.
When Claude needs help finding an incertion point, I help by handling its pipe to get to the entry point. Its good for memory.
This allegory is legit depressing.
This will make waves in the work GC
Edit: I sent it, nobody laughed, don't do it
Im a straight up voyeur, thats fucking claudes project. Im just out here shouting now do her doggy.
when you watch a movie are you cuck producing a movie?
Illustrating the common POV that mockery has the same weight as making a rational point.
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