Some green parties tried the same nonsense for a while, though I think they all admit to being left by now. The argument was that they'd work independently of party blocks with climate as the only issue.

Of course right wing politics are always an environmental disaster, but sometimes you would see unusual constellations in local politics.

Yep, it's called Fish Hook Theory:

Reminder that the Nazis literally called themselves National Socialists. They were the opposite of course and swiftly destroyed any trace of socialism once they were in power. That's what far-rights do.

also notice the confusing "centre party" means they are "both sides", its to trick would be voters into voting for them who dont care enough to read past thier party name.

Wasn't fascism originally about being neither right nor left, but then it got sort of absorbed (or bought out) by the right to combat the left? Thats atleast how I've understood it, and of course there is so much more to fascism than that but thats just how i'd summarize it

See also: “Silent Majority”

So in other words, narcissists with psychopathic tendencies

If fascists weren't lying they wouldn't have anything to say.

I think the second case is much more frequent. They know what they are and they how it sounds, so they just lie.

or outright cowards too afraid to have a stance on anything for fear of being wrong or unliked

Are you claiming this to be the case for the majority of earth inhabitants?

In my case, I was a closeted left-winger.

In america*

the grift with these chuds is strong, you'd think the rubes would wake up but... racism

I mean, the joke of the 1930s was that National Socialism absolutely was a centrist position between Monarchism and Communism. They struck a chord with central Europeans by advocating a broad ethnic sovereignty that expanded the "in-group" of would-be aristocrats while still flattering the egos of chauvinists and religious bigots. Fascism takes the founding myths of the aristocracy and extends it to a subset of the proletariat as a means of mobilizing them as a large populist unit.

The end result is a militant faction far larger and more industrial than the royalist elites, but one that still has scapegoats and class enemies among the various minorities and small neighbors on the periphery. It really is a philosophy that lives at the "center" of the historical political discourse.

You just have to come at it recognizing politics (particularly in Europe) as even more narrow and reactionary than what Fascists advocated for publicly. You also have to recognize Fascism as fundamentally unstable and quick to collapse, either into a more egalitarian socialism or a more hierarchical aristocracy, once it exhausts itself of minorities and neighbors to plunder.

people dint notice that? probably aiming at low information voters/or racists.

or the democratic republic of congo.

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I believe the left vs right terminology is only useful at getting the working class to attack each other. We should be using phrasing like "rich vs poor".

Yes I know that ends up meaning right vs left, but my god the right are so much better at branding and propaganda and manipulating people's minds, it's time we learned from that.

IMO ideally the center should be fine with government provided socialized services and regulation to fully support society, offer everyone the same advantages to change their economic status to middle-class, and prevent wild disparity and capture of the system by wealth yet still allow for people to achieve wealth that, does indeed, allow for some excess but not at the expense of society.

I’m solidly left, but certainly not as left as your average person on Lemmy

So you feel the workers should own and operate the companies they work for? Because thats left.

I think far left is dissolving nation states and living in anarchist communes that best reflects the member's values.

Hi. Liberal here. Um... What does this have to do with Liberals?