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Centre Party (media.piefed.zip)
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Centre Party
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[–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

IMO ideally the center should be fine with government provided socialized services and regulation to fully support society, offer everyone the same advantages to change their economic status to middle-class, and prevent wild disparity and capture of the system by wealth yet still allow for people to achieve wealth that, does indeed, allow for some excess but not at the expense of society.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Wouldn't most just call that Left?

    What's missing that would then move that to be Left?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Left is the workers owning the means of production.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    IDK what exactly that would entail, but I at the very least feel the government should pay for healthcare, education, housing all "basic" needs and more.

    Also cap wealth at ~100mil sounds like a good idea if possible

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    The workers own and operate the businesses and organizations they work for.

    Also cap wealth at ~100mil sounds like a good idea if possible

    Glass steagall was a great way to regulate capitalism. Eventually the 1% purchased the removal of these regulations and protections through

    bipartisan legislationTwo Republicans and four Democrats did not vote.[11] Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-S. Carolina) voted in favor, Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Illinois) voted "present" and Sen. James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma) did not vote. A table with members' full names, sortable by vote, state, region and party, may be found at S.900 as amended: Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, roll call 105, 106th Congress, 1st session. Votes Database at The Washington Post. Retrieved on 2008-10-09 from "S 900 | U.S. Congress Votes Database - the Washington PostThe Washington Post". Archived from the original on 2011-06-13. Retrieved 2008-10-09.. Independent Rep. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted yes; 33 Republicans and 28 Democrats did not vote.[15] 52 Republicans and 38 Democrats voted for the bill. Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama (Republican, formerly a Democrat) voted against it, as did 7 Democratic Senators: Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Richard Bryan (Nevada), Byron Dorgan (N. Dakota), Russell Feingold (Wisc.), Tom Harkin (Iowa), Barbara Mikulski (Maryland) and Paul Wellstone (Minn.) Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Illinois) again voted "present", while Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) did not vote. Republicans voted 207–5 in favor, with 10 not voting. Democrats voted 155–51 in favor, with 5 not voting. Independent Rep. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted no.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act#Notes

    This will happen to your proposal given a long enough timeline.

    Capitalism is not a stable foundation to build civilization on.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yes. The center should be what people in the US would call left.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Ok but what is the difference between what you just said, and the actual left?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    The actual left where? In the US? What the popular view of the left is or what people think is far left? We don’t have a “left” in the US, just some mildly socially liberal politicians that barely try to control gov budgets and protect rights, and a few people that are on the fringe with little power that might brush up against leftist policy once in a while. The “actual left” is something we don’t have.

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