Rep. Delia C. Ramirez (D-Illinois) has introduced a bill that would abolish not just ICE, but the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) altogether, repealing the 2002 law establishing the agency and replacing it with one focused on protecting civil and human rights.

The wide-ranging legislation, dubbed the Reimagining Safety Act, would repeal the Homeland Security Act. Signed by President George W. Bush as part of his administration’s post-9/11 “war on terror,” the transformational bill created DHS and led to the establishment of Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The bill would abolish DHS, CBP, and ICE — going further than the progressive call to abolish ICE. Other offices currently housed within the department, like Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the Coast Guard, Citizenship and Immigration Services, and the customs functions of CBP would be broken off into different authorities.

“We know that DHS was intentionally established with an overbroad mission and unchecked power. The last two years have made it visible what so many communities have actually been saying for decades: That DHS, frankly, is the single greatest threat to our public safety today,” Ramirez said in a press conference previewing the legislation last month. “We must strip away every single tool they are using to terrorize us.”

In DHS’s place, Ramirez’s bill would create a cabinet-level “Department of Community Safety,” which would address community concerns ranging from gun violence to disaster relief, using a public health-based approach. All immigration detention centers would be shuttered.

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[–] 61 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell, but glad to see it anyways.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's important to get this conversation in front of voters now so they can go full speed with it next year after winning both houses of congress

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Judging by the usual Lemmy response, we'll end up blaming Democrats.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Are people ‘blaming’ democrats or pointing out that until this point the vast majority have been perfectly happy continuing to have a paramilitary organization that didn’t exist prior to 2003 in charge of enforcement of a misdemeanor violation? Just so we’re all on the same page.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That's a gross simplification, if you look at the budget and administration alone you can see two very different approaches. But you probably won't do that so I can't be bothered to engage any further.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago*

    Dang, it’s convenient you don’t have to present any evidence before declaring me wrong. Maybe someone else can list what legislative sessions had a majority of Democrats trying to eliminate ICE before last year. Because frankly I’m not impressed by “we only gave the Gestapo 85% of last year’s budget”.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    We need to end the Patriot Act. That is the conversation that needs to be made. That would encompass all of this.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Citizens United too. Both of those gotta go at the very least, though I still think we need to start over entirely. Balkanize or not, new constitution.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago

    Be careful what you wish for. You might ask for a new constitution, but what if it's worse? This one at least tries to guarantee us certain rights, even if somewhat toothlessly.

    But the reality is things could be so much worse than they are. They are bad, of course, and it's not my intention to minimize that. But the sole reason things aren't already worse than they are is because of those pesky constitutional safeguards putting roadblocks between the current administration and its agenda.

    So let's not lose sight of what we do have, nor throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    A constitutional convention might be overdue, but I'm reluctant to start that conversation until we get rid of the fascist trifecta.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    I doubt it'll pass, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago

    Everyone knows this won't go anywhere. Democrats in DC are masters of the useless symbolic gesture.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    While I’m super in favor of the sentiment of this the word “abolish” is such a terrible comms approach.

    We will still need border protection and airport security, question is how should this work not let’s just burn it all down. I know this proposal has replacement ideas which is great but saying abolish and letting this be a headline just plays into the hands of the idiots who won’t think past the headline.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Truly landmarkish

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Can we add "abolish conservatism" to the bill? If not, this shit will all come right back. As long as conservatives (incl. neoliberals) exist, oppression will exist.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    While we can be wishful, conservatives will always exist, and it would be better to prevent them from doing more damage.

    It would, however require constitutional amendments that would essentially neuter the Unitary Theory of the Executive.

    1. In my head, it would give each branch of government it's own physical law enforcement.

    2. And money generated or excess received by the branches must still be appropriated by Congress without exception.

    3. the electoral college should be ended and ranked choice become required.

    4. Undo citizens united

    5. Do something to get people with actual brains running for office. No idea how to do this one though.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    To the last, important to start by defining "brains" and maybe more important is starting with empathy.

    Need to tie their time in office to measurable goals related to quality of life for the people who actually need help in the country. Miss those milestones and you are unable to run for reelection. Maybe also something akin to the honorable or dishonorable discharge in the military. Something that does you, good or bad.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    You make a bill that hopeful and specifically save the TSA?

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  • [+] -15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah it’s easy Delia, all you have to do is push forward bills that sound nice and have no chance of passing, after that, you can afford to burn away some of that good will on some votes against the people.

    We will shift this responsibility to a different Democrat as needed so you can still keep your seat going forward.

    Dont forget we have dinner with our friends from across the aisle every Thursday where we laugh at our constituents together.

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Oh, that’ll have the conservatives absolutely frothing

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Chinga la migra

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    DHS and ICE must be destroyed

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  • [+] -10 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Excuse me, but don’t we actually need customs and border patrol? I’m perfectly fine with completely re-organizing CPB, but we have an absolutely gigantic couple of borders, and we really do need a functional customs and border patrol.

    DHS and ICE can fuck off

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    it was created then to. granted that part was mainly a consolidation of other things we had including the border patrol, Her bill is basically to put us back to where we were before the homeland security act. Her bill is literally a repeal of the homeland security act. Im all for it.

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