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[–] 112 points 1 month ago (32 children)

The Pentagon announced on Monday evening that Nidal Hasan would be executed by firing squad, which Hegseth recommended and President Donald Trump approved. Acting Secretary of the Army Adam Telle set the date for Hasan’s execution on December 3 at 2pm ET, 1pm CT, at Fort Hood.

Hegseth said the execution would occur on “a Thursday, we’re going to do it at one o’clock, which is when he did it, and it’s going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad.”

Jesus fuck we have lost our way

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    But this is what we’ve always wanted as a fundamentalist Christian nation: some hardcore eye-for-an-eye shit you can take the kids to. Put it on TV. The line between entertainment and real death is long gone. “Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it.”

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Ironically the actual fundamentals of Christianity:

    Be kind to your enemy. Turn the other cheek. Forgive those who trespass against you. ..to the least of these... Let he who is without sin...

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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    Yeah, the Sermon on the Mount stuff sounds pretty great. Or Thomas Jefferson's bible. Or just being a red-letter Christian.

    It'd be great if all the other stuff was left by the wayside, but it's still there, lying in wait...

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    America has always been violent

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    I'd argue that in spite of the feckless of attempts, that the US on aggregate has strived to move away from that violent past, but the full throated nature of this sort of thing definitely feels "traditional" in that sense.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    When? Doesn't seem to me like they ever stopped invading/attacking poor countries. I guess you're referring to when it switched from "we're doing this for our gain" to "we're doing this for their freedom"?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    I think by US on aggregate they are referring to the general populous view. The general populous is at worst split on these world police, liberation crusades

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    US has a huge amount of violent crime, always has. They can't stop warring since WW2.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    My argument is about the overall striving as a people and a nation, evidenced by a trail of admittedly flawed and leaky legislation whose heart I believe is in fact in the right place. It feels apparent that power sticks its foot in the jamb to hold the door ajar just enough for itself on almost every attempt to make progress.

    I concede that US history is horribly marred and shameful, and it behooves us to honor that by not forgetting that past.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I concede that US history is horribly marred and shameful, and it behooves us to honor that by not forgetting that past.

    Too bad the American history that is actually taught in schools is entirely sanitized and propagandised to remove anything that would make the country look anything less than heroic and angelic.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    You believed wrong. It was always corrupt from the beggining. You just fell for the propaganda.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I didn't say it wasn't corrupt from the beginning. Best not, I think.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Oh okay, fair enough. People sometimes act like there is something to save. We are well past that point.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    it’s going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad.”

    How are those soldiers chosen to participate?

    Are they ordered to do it, or are they volunteers who actually want to shoot another American citizen?

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  • [–] 44 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    If toxic masculinity had an avatar how would it be any different than Hegseth?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Pentagon has since confirmed it will be live streamed

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    I can remember when in most circumstances, even (most) conservatives thought something like "chop-chop square" in Saudi Arabia was disgusting and barbaric.

    Of course, the sick fucks that voted most gleefully for someone like donnie didn't really think so. They think that's a great example of "law and order", FFS.

    Oh sure, they'd also concern-troll about "Shariah law" - they'd pretend to wring their hands over how gays are thrown off rooftops or women stoned or whatever in other cultures that have out of control religious rightwing extremism driving lots of hatred, but really they are ultimately quite jealous, because they want to do that here.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    These people are such freaks

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    This is just warm up. Trump has been itching to execute his "enemies" via firing squad - Stalin style - except that trump has instantaneous WORLD WIDE ACCESS to the world. He has been DYING to start executing his enemies. You know, like democrats. Intellectuals. news people. Like that. That's why he made firing squads part of the federal "justice" system in his first term. Long term planning. Once he steals the next election he'll have carte blanche to be the Stalin he's been trained to be.

    I figure because he's such a sleaze that he'll make it pay-per-view and cash in on that too. Finally... his ratings will begin to climb.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago* (32 children)

    The entire purpose is to spread fear, so nobody defies Trump over the next 2 years (or beyond that). This really is like North Korea now. Congrats. This is what happens when you elect a dangerous narcissist with dementia (people who knew him even strongly warned about him)

    Its a good thing you guys didn't vote for Kamala. That would have been horrible /s

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (27 children)

    We need to understand that we are already in a civil war. Conservatives have promised to "rise again" every single fucking day since we showed them mercy in 1865. We pulled Sherman back and let conservatives live, and now we have concentration camps. They have been plotting to kill us every day since their "surrender".

    It's time to finish the war. Properly and completely this time. Act independently. Be discrete. Be prolific.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (25 children)

    They won a long time ago considering we have destroyed millions of minority families already. A late call to violence is the very definition of weakness.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

    The conservatives have dozens of gargantuan new concentration camps that are currently empty. They plan to fill them after midterms. Our genocide is just beginning.

    I will "deal with" as many of my enemy as I can now, before they put me in the camps. Rolling over and giving up is the very definition of weakness.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (23 children)

    Oh God, you are delusional. There is nothing to save and if you think violence is the solution you already lost.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (22 children)

    I am not going to follow your recommendation to just give up without fighting.

    If you read my comments and thought you would convince me to just surrender by writing a couple of lazy sentences, then it is you who are delusional.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (21 children)

    I never said surrender, but your suggestion of discrete murders is fucking bonkers. Please tell me when the shit hits the fan and you pull the trigger how you tell the "good" guys from the "bad" guys.

    You are just roleplaying garbage at this point.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (20 children)

    Thanks for the name-calling. That's very helpful. Also helpful are the presumptions you make in each sentence, ensuring no response can adequately address your deception or your strawman nonsense.

    Your very first comment to me was an instruction to give up, yet here you claim to have never suggested surrender. So, you are a liar in your first sentence. If you are just trying to play a semantics game here, then I will still label you a liar.

    Then you presume every encounter with a conservative will be predicated by "shit hitting the fan". Sounds like you have a very limited imagination. Either that, or you are attempting to manipulate the conversation to reflect only limited possible scenarios. Either way, you are being deceptive in this presumption, which is consistent with your established history of being a liar.

    As for telling the "good guys" from the "bad guys", you again presume anyone who resists would indiscriminately attack everyone they see. This is also an absurd comment intended to cause me to not address it. But I will address it. In a war, it's important to properly identify your target. There. One sentence. Another manipulative strawman is addressed.

    You write like a conservative. You suggest giving up in the war against conservatives, claiming they already won. And then you seem to be pathological in your lies in your responses. I think we both know why you are offended at the notion of resistance against conservatives.

    Conservatives are truly, deeply evil. As long as they continue to live, there are some of us who will never, ever stop dealing with them. Be afraid. Or better yet, just take your own advice and give up.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (19 children)

    What name did I call you? Please try again.

    My very first comment was dogging on someone calling for violence because they are weak. A person who reminds me of the loser conservatives also calling for violence. Pathetic.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    You called me "roleplaying garbage". Pretending to not remember calling me a name is yet another example of you being consistently pathological in your lies.

    Violent resistance is not weakness. Calling violent resistance weakness is a taunt used by the enemy to convince the normal people to just give up. At least your messaging in defense of conservatives is consistent.

    Every word uttered by a conservative apologist is deception or manipulation. Every. Word.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    Yes, I called out your actions. Learn the difference.

    Go saber rattle somewhere else.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (16 children)

    Aaaand another lie. Right on time. You claim to have called out my actions rather than have engaged in name-calling. 🤣 Your lies are so easy to toss back into your face. You realize it's written down right? We can all see that you are a liar.

    Here's your comment: "You are just roleplaying garbage at this point."

    The sentence starts with "You are...". That indicates the subject of the sentence is me, not any actions. Then you called me "roleplaying garbage". I mean, it's a pretty silly and inoffensive insult, but there's no need to lie about it.

    Is there anything you won't lie about? What's your favorite color? What did you have for lunch? Is there anything you would ever be honest about? This conversation has become comically entertaining. Your lies are cartoonish.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (15 children)

    Yup, there is a subtle difference. One that I can hope you can learn someday. You see, you can change your behavior

    Are you ESL? Roleplaying is a verb.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    🤣 You will say absolutely anything to get out of a lie. You'd make a perfect GOP rep. Be sure to look over your shoulder after midterms!

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (13 children)

    It is okay, I know English is hard. Let me help you

    Roleplaying is the verb and garbage is the noun. This describes your action as opposed to what you are.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Are you still trying to renovate this lie? Please move on with your life. You lied repeatedly. I called you out repeatedly and now you think a semantics argument is going to reverse one of those lies I called out.

    Take your own advice and just give up. It's OK to call me names. I forgive you. I am garbage. There, we finally agree on something. You win. Now stop defending conservatives.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Are you still struggling with the English language?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    In so much as I struggle to understand what motivates conservative trolls like you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Well, first of all you act like an edgelord advocating people to kill their fellow Americans because "reasons". It is such a pathetic stance relegating yourself to the violence the left has always denounced for good reason.

    Not to mention the whole false flag angle of conservatives trying to get leftist to commit murder thus proving that they are dangerous and deserve to receive yet more violence from the state.

    I don't know many peaceful conservatives, in fact just the opposite. So for you to sit here and accuse me of being conservative for calling out your violent fantasies is about the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever heard.

    Which leads to to the very real question. Are you okay?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    Those "fellow Americans" are fascist traitors who are endlessly motivated to oppress absolutely everyone around them. They are systematically attacking the most vulnerable classes, one by one, taunting, arresting and murdering anyone who gets in their way. You are defending fascists while calling people on the internet names because we want justice to be served.

    You freely admit that most conservatives you know are violent, yet you demand me to be peaceful and just sit back and take it. No thanks. That's not going to work for me.

    I don't expect most people to be motivated by my enthusiasm, but I know there are a few here and there who will do the right thing with a little encouragement. I think it helps motivate us just knowing that acting alone doesn't mean we are alone in the fight. No single actor can completely stop conservatives, but reducing some harm is better than doing nothing.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    Those "fellow Americans" are fascist traitors who are endlessly motivated to oppress

    And you are ready to join them being the next executioner and oppressor.

    They are systematically attacking the most vulnerable classes,

    This isn't just America, this is the whole fucking world.

    You are defending fascists

    I am looking at the next generation.

    calling people on the internet names

    No, I said you are roleplaying garbage, which you have proven time and time again.

    You freely admit that most conservatives

    Yes, it is easy to recognize them. They do things like advocate murder on left leaning platforms.

    That's not going to work for me.

    I know, you want their blood because your acting like a ridiculous edgelord.

    I don't expect most people to be motivated by my enthusiasm,

    You expect them to be inspired by your murderousness.

    but I know there are a few here and there who will do the right thing with a little encouragement

    Now you want others to murder in your name, pathetic.

    I think it helps motivate us just knowing that acting alone

    Yeah, you and your wanna be murder club.

    No single actor can completely stop conservatives

    If everyone joins the murder fest it will be fun!

    reducing some harm is better than doing nothing

    Coming here to roleplay garbage is not the flex you think it is. Go get some help.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    The fact that so many of your comments must include name-calling, like "roleplaying garbage" or "edgelord" reveals the weakness of your position.

    Fighting fascists does not make one a fascist. Meeting the violence of nazis with violent resistance does not make the resistors nazis. Your logic is not logical.

    We can agree that the conservative infestation is global. Good point there. No notes.

    I don't want anyone to act in my name. I want people to make their own decisions about what their personal role is in resisting. Proactive defense is not for everyone. I respect that. I don't expect you to ever engage in violence. Those of us willing to put up a defense must do so before it is too late, though.

    The current strategy of conservatives is similar to their strategy in the 30's and 40's. That strategy of oppressing vulnerable classes one by one and putting them into camps was effective for many years. Millions of innocent people died. Only overwhelming outside force was able to stop it. No one is coming to save us in the U.S. The conservatives made sure that we maintained ZERO allies, which minimizes the possiblility of escape or rescue.

    The concentration camps are here in the U.S. because of conservatives. Dozens of the biggest ones are not even being used yet, as conservatives are doing their best to keep the public calm before midterms. As conservatives rally for their leadership to declare martial law at midterms, their for-profit concentration camps are preparing to open and accept prisoners. If you are truly not a conservative and you are in the U.S., you are in danger as well. No one is immune from concentration camps.

    I'm definitely taking as many nazis with me as I possibly can BEFORE they put me into a camp. It's the morally correct thing to do. It won't stop the conservatism locally or globally, but at least I'll die knowing I actually fought back.

    Defending them will not keep you out of the camps. Fight or flee, but don't defend them. Defending evil is evil.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    The fact that so many of your comments must include name-calling, like "roleplaying garbage" or "edgelord" reveals the weakness of your position.

    I said you act like an edgelord. I know English is hard, but you seem to be missing the most basic comprehension of how the language works.

    Fighting fascists does not make one a fascist.

    Whatever bullshit you need to tell yourself.

    violent resistance does not make the resistors nazis. Your logic is not logical.

    This isn't the Nazi you are resisting, it is your neighbors you know on a first name basis. You are surrounded by conservatives if you live in the US and none of them are trying to kill you actively. It is like you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. What you have is a deranged defense fantasy syndrome.

    We can agree that the conservative infestation is global. Good point there. No notes.

    The vast majority of the world would be considered conservative. Anyone supporting traditional power structures and traditional hierarchy.

    I don't want anyone to act in my name. I want people to make their own decisions about what their personal role is in resisting

    You can back peddle to resistance all you want. You were talking about murder so pardon me if I don't trust you now.

    Millions of innocent people died. Only overwhelming outside force was able to stop it.

    Fascism was never defeated. The US was instrumental in creating Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany. US industrialists bank rolled both empires with famous examples like Ford building auto factories in Nazi Germany and letting them keep them and all the profits.

    US corporations also gave material support to the Nazi with IBM developing a census for the Jews (you know those numbers tattooed on their arms) and the helping with the logistics of emptying the ghettos for the Final Solution. Not to mention Hitler himself said he was inspired by the Native American genocide.

    You are so confused it isn't funny. How in the hell do you expect to fight the "enemy" when you have no clue what the fuck happened or is happening now!? You need to seriously slow down and put a lot more thought into the state of the world.

    The concentration camps are here in the U.S. because of conservatives.

    Many were built under Obama. This has always been a bipartisan issue. The US has been fascist for a very long time now.

    I'm definitely taking as many nazis with me as I possibly can BEFORE they put me into a camp.

    This isn't happening. You could argue it will come to this, but we aren't there yet.

    Defending evil is evil.

    I hear you and that is what my primary concern for you is. You are ready to commit to evil under the pretense of righteousness without knowing what is really going on or even being able to identify your so called enemy.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    My "so called enemy" has been calling me their enemy for over 50 years. I know who they are. They insist I am their enemy. I am not given a choice in that role. They chose it for me and treat me as the enemy whether I approve or not.

    You pretend the conservatives around you are not the people who are doing this. It's the basis of your defense of evil. Your premise is false on its face. Conservatives celebrate and support every tiny bit of what is happening under the fascists they elected. The ONLY thing they complain about is the price of gas. That's it. They support the rest of it. The violence and terror and murders and kidnappings. They love ALL of it. Because conservatives are genuinely pure evil, whether you choose to see it or not.

    FUN FACT: Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy. In fact, conservatives are disgusted by empathy. They claim it is fake, that it doesn't exist, that it's a sin or that it's a weakness. They call it "wokeness" and insist that it needs to die.

    This is why conservative relationships are so shallow. Some amount of empathy is required to develop a deep emotional bond with another person. A conservative cannot experience any empathy at all, so they love their spouse and children with the same depth as a teenager loves a sportscar. It's a strong emotion, but it's not a deep, personal bond. This is why conservatives value their families as property rather than as humans.

    Their biological inability to experience empathy is also why bigotry comes so easily to them. A conservative will never see you as a human the way you see them as a human. They cannot experience the empathy required to humanize others the way a normal person does. This is why stories of genocide do not bother them. This is also why every genocide in human history has been led exclusively by conservatives.

    They are telegraphing their haymaker. They are even bragging about it. Refusing to aknowledge it, prepare for it or act upon it is a deadly mistake.

    Two years from now, this conversation will mean absolutely nothing. It will be as if it never happened. Just some thoughts shared between someone who sees the evil and someone who doesn't, just before that evil consumes them both.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The more we talk the more it is clear you don't know what is happening. You have made conservatives into a scape goat to conveniently organize your world into a false dichotomy.

    You are right, something is wrong. You simply can't accurately define what that is. Two years from now it will business as usual. We will continue marching towards WWIII and scapegoating people for political power. The wealthy will continue to wield unyielding power and we will be divided by their propaganda pitted against one another.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (2 children)

    We agree the wealthy are largely to blame, but conservatives are the loyal defenders of the wealthy. For example, the wealthy do not bust unions on their own. They have conservatives do that for them. Conservatives defend the wealthy at any cost. They always have and always will.

    If not for conservatives, the normal people would be able to charge the wealthy with crimes. If not for conservatives, the wealthy would be required to pay appropriate taxes. The wealthy would be required to pay appropriate wages. The normal people would be able to address wealth inequality, global climate destruction, affordable healthcare and affordable housing. Conservatives are the sole champions of the wealthy on all of these issues. If not for conservatives, each of these issues could be addressed.

    We cannot defeat the boss until his minions are dead.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    That is ass backwards. You seem to believe you have to go through everyone to get to the wealthy. The problem is there will always be another sucker to take a "minions" place. You are simply playing into their hands.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    We completely disagree on this. The wealthy are too few to vote on their own. They need conservatives to support them with their votes. The wealthy know they can motivate conservatives by promising to satisfy their bloodlust. Nothing motivates a conservative to vote more than the promise of harming a vulnerable class. The wealthy exploit this trait.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I’m willing to bet it’s even worse than that. They’re executing a brown man and putting it on American tv. This is just raw meat for the rabid maga cult. Riling up the racists to keep them happy and actively supporting their dear leader, despite the fact that gas & food & everything else are more expensive than ever.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The thought of shooting someone gets this dude hard. I fully believe that.

    Pathetic ass loser.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I think there is section of society that would like to kill people and justify it. Wether it's home "defence", predditor hunting or execution. The current admisnistration seems to enjoy signing death warrants. Shooting or beating are more apeling than failing to find a vain in a closed door away from public view.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Will Hegseth drink the blood of the executed man to enhance his masculinity?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    I hope one day it's his turn and they do the same. I'll make popcorn

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    Fascists always gonna fash.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Should make for some great edits putting Charlie Kirk in there since it's okay to show people being executed by gunfire.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Too bad we don’t have an FCC to shut that down, a Congress to remove them for this blatant crime, or an FBI that will ever do its job.

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