Once again, Republicans are the shittiest Christians.

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[–] 176 points 1 month ago (19 children)

because people need to understand that there’s serious consequences for these types of things

Everyone understands that. That's not a question.

All this will do is provide something inside these terror networks to play over and over and over to their recent converts. A public execution of these radical attacks only serves to encourage more of the exact same thing. There's no part of it that's discouraging.

These terror networks will literally play it over and over again. They will tell their people. "Hasan killed 13 of them and he is now dead and in heaven for his actions. The US will make you all martyrs and your kin will know your acts."

Like Hegseth has literally no clue who he is dealing with. The people who he acts like this will discourage, all it will do is make happier to jump at the chance to have the same thing happen to them. He's going to make the best recruitment tool for these terror organizations.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago

    You think they don’t want that? The more terror attacks on Americans the more they can push for the totalitarian police state to protect us.

    It’s what Israel has been doing by funding Hamas and splintering Palestine.

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  • [–] 75 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    they are all too stupid to understand any of the points you are making

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    They're all definitely stupider than shit, but idk if they'd care even if they did understand. They want more terrorist attacks because they think that will get them reelected and they pretty obviously don't give a crap about who gets hurt in their quest for power.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Like Hegseth has literally no clue who he is dealing with. The people who he acts like this will discourage, all it will do is make happier to jump at the chance to have the same thing happen to them. He’s going to make the best recruitment tool for these terror organizations.

    I don't think its accurate to say that Hegseth doesn't know what he is doing.

    Making the execution public is on purpose, so the question is what purpose does it serve.

    1. The most obvious seems to be about ego, and being a "tough guy" Hegseth (and Trump) are obsessed with being seen as strong men, and they think a public execution makes them seem tough

    2. Terror, the next most obvious is that this is a part of the regimes ongoing terrorism campaign against Americans. Hegseth (and republicans in general) are telling people that they will find and execute anybody they think is an enemy.

    "Speaking to Real America’s Voice, Hegseth made clear that the decision was deliberate. “We’re gonna make sure that people are able to watch it, that it’s public, because people need to understand that there’s serious consequences for these types of things,” he said."

    1. Desensitization seems to be next. The constant ramping up of violence, and the political celebration of violence is a pretty deliberate attempt to make government run violence a normal part of life.

    2. Precedent is probably on this list. Now that the Regime can publicly execute people for terrorism, they can publicly execute anybody. They have already said that anybody who is against fascism is a terrorist, and they already have assaulted, imprisoned and killed people for it. Now they are setting a precedent that they can do it legally.

    3. Pissing off Muslims and making more enemies is probably here too. The regime needs people to blame atrocities on, when Trump nukes Los Angeles, he is going to want to blame it on "extremists." It fuels his forever war, and gives him an unlimited supply of support from people that don't look too hard. This seems to be rather low on the list, since the regime already lies about everything, and lying about muslim terrorists is probably easier than telling the truth about muslim terrorists, but anything to cloud the waters is probably a bonus.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago*

    All the guy wanted was to die a martyr. He said so at his sentencing. Not only is this not going to show serious consequences but encourage future terrorists like you pointed out.

    That said, Hegseth would be all too happy to encourage more violence on US citizens if it means ramping up the security apparatus and eroding citizen rights. No better than Netanyahu allowing Oct 7th to be as murderous as possible.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Honestly, there is much greater than a 0% chance that Hegseth didn't understand serious consequences until he himself was exposed to it, so he thinks everyone else needs that type of awakening.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    100%. The guy didn't do it thinking he'd get away with it or the US military would give him a slap on the wrist at his court martial. He intentionally tried to get the death penalty.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    No, he understands very well the fascist economy needs enemies. If you gave Petey-pie a button that cleanly deleted Islam from the planet, he'd never press it because he can't function without an opposing religious extreme...

    For a sillier analogy, Batman and the Joker fight all the time but can't exist without each other.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago*

    If you gave Petey-pie a button that cleanly deleted Islam from the planet, he’d never press it because he can’t function without an opposing religious extreme…

    Yeah, and he can't touch Saudi Arabia, being one of the largest purchasers of military equipment and in control of the Sunni mindset preventing the rest of the Muslim world from trying to intervene in the nakba.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Is he going to attend in person?

    Squad has an opportunity to do something really funny.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Should personally pull the trigger himself if he wants it done like this. What service member will have this weight on them?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    Expect civilian casualties if that ever happens, if that time Hegseth tried to throw an axe is any indication.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Fox News Host

    God I avoid cable news completely and completely forgetting about this.

    Some fucking news anchor is in charge of shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    During Trump's first term he spent hours on the phone every night getting 'advice' from Tucker Carlson and other Fox personalities, and it only went downhill from there.

    At least during his first term there was usually at least one responsible adult around to tell him no. Now he's entirely surrounded himself with sycophants and bloodthirsty psychopaths chosen from the dumbest humanity had to offer.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I believe it's a bunch of shooters and only a couple of them have real bullets, rest are blanks.

    That said, I've also heard that people who shoot can tell the difference between blanks and regular bullets?

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  • [–] 72 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I've seen ICE shoot people

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  • [–] 60 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    things like this makes us less civilized

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's been going on since USA was born, in other states, at US behest. Is out of sight really better?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    If executions happen at all, yes, of course they're better done out of sight. What kind of person do you think would voluntarily watch those, and what would that do?

    Obviously executions should not be happening at all.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    If the state is executing people its citizens should be forced to watch: this is your will; this is what you voted for. Dumb, deaf and blind: Americans, "please do it off stage I'm watching TV here! No I didn't vote!"

    It's wild that voting isn't mandatory there.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Let me see how many other authoritarian dictatorships do public executions: Iran, North Korea, Yemen, but none of them broadcast them in live streaming. The only other occurrence of a live streamed execution was with the ISIS

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    If the US decides to livestream the execution, they will, of course, not do anything as crass as what ISIS did and put it in dark web or something.

    No, they're going to be classy people, and put it on pay per view! With crypto shitcoin rugpull sponsorship. That's what we expect from the Trump administration at this point as a bare minimum. They will sink even lower in manners that are hard to predict, however.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    There's a comment like this on the conservative subreddit thread about this. Even those loons can put this together, along with how this is the best recruitment for ISIS there's ever been.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think for NK it's more related to access to the internet and infrastructure not able to handle streaming. They may show it via terrestrial and would have the infrastructure for that. It wouldn't depend on American / external services to manage this.

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    This is nothing short of a clear threat to anyone that stands in opposition of the MAGA dictatorship. However, it won’t be the deterrent that they think it will be.

    They think this will put all the liberals in line for fear of this happening to them, but it really will just fire everyone up to stand against their fascist shit even more.

    And it also serves as a clear example that we are not doing enough to stop this criminal organization and need to step it up to their level- VERY soon.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    It's never going to happen from the general public. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    The only hope left is that there are some true Americans left in the military that are able to work together. Hopes not high for that either, as it would have happened by now.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Vote anyway. They are counting on the disenfranchised to help them win. So, spit in their faces as they set yours on fire.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

    The only hope left is that there are some true Americans left in the military that are able to work together.

    This is not the only hope left, this is just one of the more ideal solutions.

    Hopes not high for that either, as it would have happened by now. It's never going to happen from the general public. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    I really need people who say doomer shit like this to:

    1. Reflect on whether their words encourage solution-oriented thinking, or unproductive doom spirals

    2. Learn some emotional regulation

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    It’s much easier for people, especially on Lemmy, to be doomists. It means they don’t have to do anything other than watch the world burn.

    That’s much easier than giving a shit and doing something, even if it’s small.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Sorry to again burst both your bubbles but I'm not a citizen of your shithole country.

    Regardless, I am still definitely making way more of an effort to stop fascism than the average American. But then again that's not saying much.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I'm not a citizen of your shithole country

    I know, I can see which instance you’re on. My original comment applies to you just as much as it does to any American.

    Regardless, I am still definitely making way more of an effort to stop fascism than the average American.

    You don’t know that, and we have no reason to believe you, but keep patting yourself on the back while vomiting your unregulated anxiety & despair at strangers on the internet, ig

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Cool, then stop commenting I guess since this clearly ain’t about you.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Stereotypical American response much

    I still have free speech where I am, I think I'll comment on whatever I like.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    You’re the one getting all huffy like you’re somehow personally impacted by my comment. I’m simply saying — if it doesn’t apply to you then see yourself out. What’s the point of commenting on something that, as you’ve stated, doesn’t apply to you?

    You see my confusion here bud?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    No, not really.

    Explain how anything about a batshit crazy fascist government that has openly threatened my sovereignty and borders my country directly "doesn't apply to me".

    I said that's a stereotypical American thing to say because it is. It's OK for you to be part of everyone else's business, but as soon as it's the other way around you get chippy.

    You elected this clown, twice, as a country. Don't whine when the rest of the world takes issue.

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  • [–] 109 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This makes him PRO LIFE!

    -LITERALLY Republicans!

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