Unsurprisingly, it's for the benefit of golf. What's more, in the same post, he doxxed a Republican senator by revealing his personal cell phone number.
"Everybody in Arkansas, [Senator] Tom Cotton (R-AK), a friend of mine, is holding up a very important Bill," posted the president. "It’s called, 'The Sunshine Protection Act' or, 'We Don’t Want to Change Our Clocks Twice a Year Act.' For some reason, Tom is stopping the Bill and, in the Senate, it’s very easy to do, it only takes one! It should pass overwhelmingly, in a Bipartisan fashion. So, everyone in Arkansas, a State I love, and won 3 times, the last by by 34 points, tell Tom to, GET IT DONE! It will be appreciated by all. Nobody wants to spend their precious time running all over the place, turning Clocks back twice a year and, having sunshine in the afternoon is better than early in the morning!"
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Farmers literally don’t care what time it is. They aren’t waiting until 9am to do work their fields, they are going out when they should regardless of the time. No farmer is going to say “damn, sure would be nice to work on my field, but it’s only 5am so I can’t go out yet.”
Just start the event earlier you moron. Jesus this guy is thick. I don't like changing the clocks either, but that is the dumbest reason to stop.
Yeah, but narcissists like donnie don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves.
If the big baby donnie has a minor inconvenience, well then, the world should change for the big baby.
Maybe he thinks this changes the amount of time the sun is up?
I considered trying to figure out what he’s thinking to be a tremendous waste of time and effort.
I don’t even know you, but I’m quite certain there’s something better you could be doing with your time and that would make you much happier. That’s not a criticism, just a piece of advice.
I hate to agree with Trump about anything, but events have to be planned around the schedules of prospective attendees. DST exists because it causes most peoples' schedules to be adjusted, and proponents of both abolition and permanence are seeking to do just that.
You think the people that golf or attend golf events at that level don’t change their calendars at will for every little thing?
I couldn't care less about professional golf. Something as simple as an evening or morning walk with a friend depends on other peoples' work schedules. Which time of day you want to take that walk might shape which side of the debate you're on.
I slightly prefer DST, but my main position is no clock changes. Both the spring and fall changes are associated with spikes in car crashes and health emergencies.
No no no you see it's all about MORE SUNSHINE. Can't you read? Everybody loves more sunshine! Daylight Saving Time is all about SAVING DAYLIGHT! Permanent Daylight Saving Time means Permanent Daylight!
Okay I'm not a good satirist. You know how long I've been using the exact same argument? I'm done with Government-mandated clock manipulation. God put the Sun directly above our heads at noon. Permanent Standard Time is the only righteous policy.
And his followers think this means that he's actually lengthening the day to give us more daylight.
Some years back, they extended DST here in New Zealand by about a month each side. It now runs from September to April. I like it better being longer.
I don't care why he's doing it, I just want it done.
I don't see anything wrong with giving out Senator's numbers. Do they serve the people or not? Do this more often. Like, constantly.
I’ve worked swingshift for over 20 years and trust me when I say it, the switch from daylight savings in the winter and in the springtime is always a struggle for that week afterwards, this would be a welcomed improvement, but I’m not going to give this win to Donny if it even happens at all. I know that this has been an ongoing thing for longer than I can remember actually.
My friend's stepdad died of a heart attack last year 2 days after the time change. I would not be the least bit surprised if that was a part of the cause. Apparently, every time there is a big uptick in heart attacks. Seems like people are dying for no fucking reason.
Trump is an asshole, but we should adopt permanent something. I don't care if it's DST or standard time as long as we stop changing the clocks.
The article notes people in northern states tend to be more opposed to permanent DST. It seems odd to me nobody has seriously proposed splitting time zones north/south, i.e. New York would be on Eastern Standard Time, and Florida would be on Atlantic Standard Time - an hour later, equivalent to Eastern Daylight Time.
Imagine having the power to change a country's clocks permanently while still being a degenerate pedophile. Now that's multi-tasking!
I WANNA PLAY* GOLF BUT I WANNA SLEEP LATE!
There's plenty of golfers out on the greens at the crack of dawn, but it ain't gonna be Fatty.
*cheat at
We need to go to permanent standard time. Just fall back on November 1st and never change the clocks again.
I just want to see everybody on UTC. Timezones are for suckers.
How do you think UTC time would help anything?
If I started work at 8am EST now that would be 15 UTC.
Someone in CST now working for the same company, do they start their work at 15 UTC? That would be like them starting work at 7am CST.
What about MST? They should start at 15 UTC which would be 6am MST?
You just have people in MST start at 17 UTC?
You're back to timezones
UTC doesn't mean everyone has to start at the same time, it just means that 15:00 is 15:00 without calculating offsets, DST boundaries, or the international date line.
UTC doesn't mean everyone has to start at the same time
Correct.
it just means that 15:00 is 15:00 without calculating offsets, DST boundaries, or the international date line.
Correct, no offsets.
Incorrect, there's no such thing as DST boundaries. Only timezones.
Incorrect, the international date line exists in UTC
But how do you determine when everyone has to start?
People in Michigan could be in MST. They are in CST.
If they went to MST and then went to permanent MDT then it would be just like permanent CST. This is what people don't understand. Someone in Michigan could hate Daylight Savings Time, but if you told them that their standard time should be changed, then they might want permanent daylight savings time to get it back to "normal"
There is no way to make everyone happy
Depending on how close you live one way or the other to a time zone depends how much you like DST for the most part because it makes it matter more. Also north and south matters.
But if you live in a northwest corner of a time zone you probably hate the idea of permanent DST because your standard time could be a whole hour earlier moving just a yard over.
Idk if you are answering the wrong person or what but DST or standard time is not important to me at all. If your Michigan employer works with new York customers, maybe they start at 1300 UTC. And if they work with California people, maybe its 1600UTC. If they are running a restaurant its maybe 1500 UTC.
It is irrelevant whether they are in Michigan or Florida or the Azores, the absolute UTC start time is just whatever is appropriate for the location and the business.
And there would be no date line if everyone used UTC, there would just be the date which would be the same for everyone. 2300 could be morning in some places and evening in others, but it would be the same date and time.
Yes you can always pick an arbitrary time to start with any system.
Everyone could get on EST and it would be no different than everyone being on UTC. UTC isn't some special timing system it's just selecting one timezone to use, like EST.
Imagine if tomorrow the whole US started just using EST. You really think people in California are going to be happy with it? Someone that wakes up at 9 am PST in California would wake up when their clock said 12 pm EST. Their whole daily time routine is shifted 3 hours.
Wake up 8 am PST Lunch 12 pm Dinner 6 pm Sleep 10 pm
It would be
Wake up 14:00 UTC Lunch 20:00 UTC Dinner 2:00 UTC Sleep 6:00 UTC
They would wake up with half the UTC day over and they go to bed early the next day. You'd want to base your day around that? Something like going to gym after dinner would be 3:00 UTC. Yes the daylight level at 3:00 UTC in California is the exact same as 19:00 pm PST. Yet you have to morph your whole schedule around it. Standard time for things like dinner being 18:00 doesn't exist, it is now a random UTC number depending on where you live. 2:00 UTC in California, 23:00 UTC in Maine.
UTC uses the international date line.
Something as simple as a store having a sale for a day. People in California sleep over half thier day unless they were to order in the "morning" before they go to sleep.
UTC is already an agreed upon standard in some circles. I guess I'm not seeing the problem that people in California show "1600" on thier watches when they go to work. Its arbitrary, work lasts from 1600-0000, why would they need to rearrange thier lives?
Do the numbers on your microwave display have some way to maybe you sleep or wake up?
The international date line is meaningless without time zones, a new day, 00:00, begins at the same time for everyone in the world, there is no line you could cross to move to a different date. 00:00 could be the middle of the night in the UK, or the afternoon in California, or in Japan, but January 1st at 00:00 is still January 1st at 00:00 at all locations.
EST is already an agreed upon standard in some circles.
I want to visit California.
I currently eat dinner at 6 pm EST. National peak is 6:19 pm.
That's 23:00 UTC.
People in California eat dinner at 6 PST or 9 PM EST or 2 UTC.
So when I get to California I have to figure out what time dinner is at normally?
Maybe that's the thing I'm not seeing
It's simple. I leave Maine at 2 UTC and arrive in California at 11 UTC after a 9 hour flight.
I'm in California with a clock that says 11 UTC. At 11 UTC I am usually sleeping but I could get up. So if I slept well on the plane I'd probably leave the airport to go do something. 11 UTC is 3 am PST. California would be sleeping. How do I know when things will open? Generally 8 am to 10 am. It's 11 UTC, how do I know when it is "Generally 8 am to 10 am" in California UTC time? Think California probably runs 3 hours later then Maine. I know stores open at 12 UTC to 14 UTC in Maine. So they are generally going to open 15 UTC to 17 UTC in California?
Like instead of worrying about what time it is in your home area. You have to worry about what times change to in the new area. You know your home time instantly, but have to convert to "local" time.
And I do see your point of the date line. That is is a perk.
I mean I don't want to learn a new dinner time. I don't want to worry what time dinner is in California.
Im tarded so I still have to look up pst/CST/est every single time.
Utc would be sick. Let's use fucking metric while we're at it. That would be the only acceptable pork for this bill
Metric Time is the future!
Divide the day into 100 hours composed of ten (metric)minutes each. One day is one kilominute. An hour is a hectaminute. Centiminutes can stand in for a seconds.
I have no objectives to metric time.
There is actual metric time, it’s ten hours a day IIRC. Ten day “weeks,” ten “months” a year, etc. I think the French tried it briefly after the Revolution.
Might work in space communism, but as long as we're on Earth I think the time system we're all familiar with is probably so strongly ingrained that switching would be difficult and impractical.
Changing units of mass and volume is one thing, but those don't literally permeate every aspect of our daily lives and routines the way time does
this would cause a confusing disparity between clock days and sky days
"tomorrow" would no longer have a clear meaning
We need to go to permanent.. yada yada
Just don't change the clocks Nov 1, or ever again.
Yada yada.
And this is why we still have daylight savings time.
In the show Veep, there's a character who goes on a very myopic crusade against daylight saving time
He's doing it because Canada has already done it
Most of the provinces gave months of prep that this was happening.
wait what? did I miss it while off work or is it really such a meaningless and useless thing that I just didn't notice?
Wow. I never thought I’d read something I agree with. Longer evenings are a win. Do it you miserable old rapist, make one positive change in this life.
Idc why he’s doing it, it just needs to get done. The oppressive anticipation of “Fall back” is looming again and I don’t want to do it.
Even when i agree with him i cant read his horseshit posts. And even when it is something good he still only wants it for his own shitass personal benefit. Fuck him and all his voters. I would endure another fifty years of daylight savings to avoid another day of his presidency.
I don't give a shit if we go to permanent standard or daylight saving time. I just want to stop the stupid time shifts.
I would think the POTUS in the middle of losing multiple military and economic wars, would have better use of his time.
I think the reality will be a mixed response because it won’t solve the shorter days problems. It’s still going to be fairly miserable weather and shorter days, but less so.
Mornings are already crap when you’re working day shift. Most of my coworkers roll in half asleep and looking for breakfast at work (weird imo, I wake up early enough to do all that before work) and don’t appear to be fully functional before 9am, minus some outliers. I don’t see it impacting that mess much.
The real win for everyone is not having to chase clocks around the house biannually, not getting fully flipped for about 2wks.
I want to fall back but then never spring forward. Spring shift is the worst.
longer evenings are not a win for folks in southern states with sleep and mental health problems. i think it's bonkers that it's still light outside past 8p. here and it seriously messes with me every year, insomnia and deep depression for months. just keep us on standard!
That’s odd. I live in Seattle. In the summer it’s light until 10PM, and most of us think it’s extremely fun
look, all i know is that i feel wildly overstimulated, wired, and unable to rest normally and horrifically depressed at the same time, between may and sept of every year. but it's also frequently 115f and the blinding sun shines directly in my face during my hour drive home.
a little darker a little earlier would be a boon to my mental and physical health. i expect your experience in a very different climate is dissimilar to mine.
broken clock is right twice a year
I mean I find it annoying. It feels like the time switch leans harder in the direction time is already shifting, making it feel more like a 2 hour switch. So just remembering what a certain time means at a certain point of the year seems to make more intuitive sense.
But if it's gonna benefit golfers at all, I suggest changing blocks 4 times a year, or however many times would make golf impossible. I fucking hate golf and I hate golf enjoyers, because they tend to be old rich white people.
So anytime to make golfers suffer is a win in my book.
I live in Western Australia and we abolished daylight savings back in 2009. It has had no discernable difference in my life other than not having to wake up for work too early for a week once per year.
Literally the only downside is forgetting if the eastern states are two or three hours ahead when scheduling anything with someone over east.
A broken clock is right twice per day, even with daylight savings.
Ok maybe it's not a distraction from the Epstein files just this once.
Aaah who am I kidding of course it is.
Who still has clocks they need to change and don't have a reason for liking that specific clock? If you like analog clocks I doubt you care about setting it. If you don't, what clock do you still own that needs resetting? I drive old cars so that's one I guess,and the stove. That's it
The real reason to stop changing times isn’t because of older clocks, there is real data that shows a spike in accidents and heart attacks after we change the clock
I have a bunch of equipment that I have to support that doesn't support automatic time changes. I tried to talk them into using UTC but maths are too hard.
Stove and microwave have their own clocks with no sync between them, car 'technically' automatically updates but I swear for a week straight after the change it will still display the 'old' time and then flip back once I start driving. I've got a boombox I don't care what the time says on it and a clock radio at my desk which I do care.
But, to your point, even with Standard and Daylight time as it is, I just reset the stove and microwave in about thirty seconds and I'm good the rest of the way. It's really not that important to me. I get up when it's dark and go to bed when it's dark almost any time of the year.
My microwave clock drifts that much that it's useless as a clock
How... how is that possible with a digital clock?
In theory if you sync the clock with the mains frequency then you get an accurate clock, or you could use the cheapest component you can find because fuck it it's a microwave and if it looses 10 seconds a day no one will notice, untill 3 months later and you wonder why it's 15minutes out
You're saying that the frequency of the alternating current of house mains is how the microwave keeps time!? I'm not doubting, it make sense, I'm just gobsmacked
No but it's the best method to use, large institutional buildings used to have clocks that did this, and all the clocks kept in sync. The power grid used to (not sure if still do) maintain a set number of oscillations over the day so in theory every 24hours a known amount.
However the microwave probably doesn't and has a shitty quartz crystal for the lowest possible price.
What a microwave does have is a nice transformer that you can make a spot welder out of with a bit of thick wire. Obviously don't do this unless you know what your are doing.
DST is mostly because of golf, and that's reason enough we should abolish it.
ETA: if you play golf, I hate you. You are helping to prop up decades of systemic oppression. Fuck your lawns and your country clubs and your gated communities and your evening sunlight.
I mean, that's why William Willett proposed DST in the first place, so it tracks.
I don't like changing the clocks around and do (since I can't change my work schedule or when yoga class is) like DST better. Like most office jobs, where I work nobody notices if you come in early but if you stay later they think you are doing more than you actually are.
But if we have to change them, it is at least this year on the best day it could possibly be, we get one more hour of Halloween.
And school should start at 9am either way. That whole argument about kids waiting in the dark, because of DST, is because school starts at like 0730, what the fuck? Let the kids sleep until 7 at least.
But if school doesn’t start at 7:30, then the sports teams won’t be able to practice after school!
Schools need to let out later if they want to change anything, the current system is designed for one family member that does not work.
Yeah but academic instruction for 10 hours a day would be wildly unreasonable. If there was a lot more free time built in, sure. Usually there is aftercare here, they have homework time then just play.
The hours are kind of crazy to accommodate the busing. Elementary and high school start really early, middle school does run 9-4.
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