Google maps overhead view of a small roundabout with a 74 hour loop around it.

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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

We have one of these in rural middle of bum fucked and nowhere America.

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  • [–] 200 points 1 year ago* (28 children)

    You can pick up a coffee mug with a $9.99 price tag, then be asked to pay $10.74 at the register. The German mind cannot comprehend this

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  • [–] 116 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Not any sane mind can comprehend this.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I can comprehend it, but I'm certainly not happy about it

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)
  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    There is zero reason that can't be on the price tag.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Prices tags are normally prepared using computers which are famously good at maths. Here in the UK, England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland have different rules for tax on certain products and yet everything is advertised with the final price.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I would love tax-included pricing (or maybe VAT?), though from what I know:

    TV ads, sponsorship spots, circulars all complicate this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    TV ads usually don't mention pricing for national brands. Local ads like circulars are generally for just one store anyway. All of this would be low effort to do. The only reason they don't is it tricks people into spending more than they want.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Prices are printed on packaging for many things too, books, magazines, bags of potatoe chips.

    So then stores would have to cover the manufacturer price with a higher one just in their store. Which is a waste of time and material if you can just condition a population to ignore the price jump at the register.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    None of these a reasons the store, which posts it's own prices and barcodes, can't just include the total on the tag, or better yet set the price to the nearest whole number (or division of .10/.25) and take the tax out of that full amount. I know because I live in the midwest, I worked in retail/grocery store and our store piloted a test program of doing exactly that. Customers were incredibly happy and our overall sales actual went up because people who didn't normally shop with us started to because it was easier to budget.

    We got shut down by corporate beancounters who were freaking out because we were supposedly making less money. Except our sales and profits were up for the 8 weeks we demo'd the program and 4 weeks after we were forced to stop sales dropped below our year-on-year average. Literally forced to stop a program that benefited the customer and retailer because corporate greed couldn't tolerate the customer not being screwed.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    This is why being autistic feels like being from outer space. Everyone around me seems either utterly incompetent (decision makers) or fucking complacent (everyone going along with this bullshit).

    Can we get some adults in charge who make decisions based on sense and data instead of greed and vibes?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But the point is the same right? Whether you call them countries or states or counties or municipalities, there are multiple levels of government with their own distinct tax structures, but Europe has no problem displaying the final sale price on their tags. Why would this be harder to implement in the US than in Europe?

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not only can Americans comprehend it, they actively choose for it to be this way. Macys tried to switch to straight forward pricing and it did not go well for them so they switched back to their bs sales.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Imo it would only work here if everyone does it at the same time and if it’s implemented by legislation enforcing it. If one company does it, their competitors can take advantage of the perceived differences.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    I stopped off in Oregon once for some McDonald's. My total ended up being $8.00 exactly and I let out a little smile and told the cashier 'wow perfect, what are the chances'

    She looked at me like I was an idiot, and I learned some things about Oregon that day.

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  • [+] 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (33 children)
  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    for a country who's core values is Car, they suck at driving

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Our core value is taking necessary services and pricing them like a luxury.

    Spread everything out really far, get rid of public transit, and, since everybody still needs a license to drive your expensive cars, make the driving test super easy to pass so almost everybody can drive. Boom, 1.2 passengers per car and nobody can actually drive them well.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    My driving test consisted of making four right turns, then parking and verbalising how i would park on a hill.

    No parallel parking, no back-in parking or even 3 point turn. I was never even taught to parallel park, but i saw the episode where kris kardashian taught one of her kids and it just clicked lucky for me lolol

    Dont judge, the early seaons are great for cringe watching :p

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I reeeeal American I just don’t want my tax dollars going to fund other people’s firefighting costs. Can we privatize that??

    Also a right to bear arms and own weapons is sacrosanct and very important to my people. Why can’t our people please finally be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Their kids need some too. Very important.

    Idiots.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Our core value isn't Car, it's "individual freedom, especially at the cost or inconvenience of others". It just so happens that Car aligns pretty well with that

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So interesting to me that Americans think being dependent on a car is "freedom". Individual freedom should be the freedom to get to where you need to go with viable options to walk, bike, train, bus, tram, or drive.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    No one can make a profit on people walking, so I dont understand how your point makes any sense.

    edit: oh wait! footware and sports drink companies. OK, well, you've made some compelling points here. And we use small handed children to in America to make these shoes and sports drinks, right?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    you don't have to be smart to drive, we made sure of that.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Muh freedum to die in a raging, alcohol sparked ball of fire, metal, bone, and blood.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    How can one be too stupid to use a roundabout?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I don't think it's a matter of 'can't figure it out' as much as 'don't like change'. We've been putting roundabouts in my shithole state and the number of people who complain about them boggles the mind. They will successfully navigate them, but they'll whinge about it the whole time.

    This happened to me just the other day as I was chauffeuring some good old boy around. Mind you he wasn't even driving, but still had to let it be known that he disapproved. There was no traffic so I barely had to slow down to navigate the intersection and his input was "I hate these things, they just slow you down!". I tried pointing out that if it had been a 4-way stop we would have had to stop, so it was actually faster this way. I don't know if he was immune to logic or just unwilling to admit that something that was different than what he was used to had a benefit, but he just repeated that he hated them, so I dropped the subject.

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    Yeah, he was a cracker. Here's the thing though, in other ways he seems like a perfectly normal and decent human being.

    We passed by an Amish produce stand and he had me stop. He got a bunch of fresh Veggies and then we stopped at a Chinese restaurant where he went inside and gave the lady working there a bunch of them. As we were leaving he even had a short conversation with her in Chinese. I'm sure it was very simple things like "Have a good one" and "Goodbye" or something similar, but I thought it was cool he had learned it. That kind of thing is pretty rare around here.

    In the car he was telling me how they had recently lost one of their children in a car accident. It was heartbreaking. Sounds like he has known them for quite while.

    He then had me drive to a neighboring college town that has people from all over the world come to go to school, so it's a fairly diverse place. He was telling me he liked it there because there were so many different kinds of interesting people. We stopped by his Dry Cleaners which was also ran by Chinese people and he left them with the other half of the vegetables.

    Then on the way out of town he had me stop at the International Market. He asked me if I had ever tried Eel before and when I said I hadn't he bought me a couple of cans (it's ok, nothing to write home about imo).

    So yeah, he was an old white redneck, but he wasn't a total piece of shit and fairly open minded about some things. I'm not sure why he hates roundabouts, but that attitude is super common around here, among all sorts of people.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I’ve seen

    • Turning left without going around the center

    • Stopping to allow someone into the roundabout intended as a kind gesture and

    • My mom insisted that in her car I use the left turn signal if my roundabout exit is to the left of my entrance

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think using your left signal if you're leaving on the third exit of a four exit roundabout is actually standard practice in some countries. I saw people do this a lot in Norway for instance.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh? This is actually great news.

    I’m a grownup who got a driving license late, but even after the practice and test I didn’t know the answer to how to signal out of a roundabout. So I looked it up.

    In my home state, the law is: never use your left signal at a roundabout (unless switching to a left lane within a roundabout). So I assumed it was universal. Maybe not.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That's probably how it should be. Otherwise the only way the left signal is useful is if you see it right when the car enters. Otherwise you'll have no idea what exit it's meant to be for.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As a European it's very cute listening to you guys working out how to signal on a roundabout.

    But to give some help... Signal as if you're going to continue round until you pass the exit before the one you need at which point signal for the exit.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Unfortunately, it's a thing. I've had people try to merge onto the roundabout when I'm in it, and then honk at me when I didn't let them through. If any of these people ever do hit my car, I am not going to try to correct them ahead of time so that they perjurer themselves to the cop who eventually shows up to take the report.

    Which I think speaks to the terrible level of driver training in America. A roundabout is a combination of things that you should already know about as a driver, like how yield signs work, and how to stay in your lane and follow lines on the road. If you can't put those thoughts together, then I question your ability to drive safely at all.

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  • [–] 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    >my citizens in Cities:Skylines

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You’ve never heard of NASCAR. We are good at turning left for hours on end.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    As an American, I can ride my mobility scooter for 74 hours and still be in Walmart. Comprend that.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Do they have pit stops to recharge the batteries at Walmart? I would imagine there is also a burrito stand nearby

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I really wanna know what they put in to Google to make it spit out that time estimate.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    They've started using traffic circles in my state. They work sooo much better than traffic lights at intersections.

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    I didn't realize there was a difference

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Traffic circles are not real roundabouts. They are just a road that have a circle shape. For example traffic circles often have traffic lights.

    Roundabouts are traffic circles. But they have to be just a circle with "give way" at the entrance. No stop signs, no traffic lights.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I love roundabouts, but goddamn are they annoying when you're stuck in a route starvation situation. I've had bad days when I'm stuck for close to 5 minutes at one near my house depending on time of day and approach route.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sounds like you need a 2-laner and drivers who understand how they work

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's already a 2/2.5 lane roundabout, but if you're on entrance 3, while 1 and 2 are busy as hell, you may not have a window to safely go through.

    This roundabout is at a major intersection just off of a freeway and between like 3 different shopping centers, so it's awful to go through at rush hour. I've gotten good at eyeballing windows that scare the piss out of my wife in that roundabout.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Mr bean, is that you?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    American here, you can absolutely drive at least one more hour than that. Idiots.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Look kids, big ben! Parliament!

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