I haven't tried it, but seems to be difficult enough that practically everyone uses the SDK. And also, before the SDK existed, practically nobody was successful in doing it.

It has a single committer and there are two commits with Claude as co-author, so I would suggest it's probably about as you'd expect.

https://l.suppo.fi/post/14723493/16842431

Colibri to my knowledge is basically doing public chats until private spaces are in a better spot then doing private spaces for private groups.

Roomy.space is another one of these who built their own private spaces on atproto and would be worth checking out.

Also Atproto isn't inherently a bad place for this since it can be a hybrid system of on or off protocol, or using their upcoming permissioned data spaces for private data.

Stoat and Fluxer already have voice/video solved just like Discord.

i also use irc but it doesn't work for normies. there's no integrated persistant chat log, image/file upload, voice chats, replies(linking to specific message), message editing, emoji reactions, etc...

I think the goal here is to get the general population off Discord and moved into a more open platform.

IRC is great but I can't see the average user using it unfortunately. Every platform has its own goal, but the ultimate community goal is whatever pushes us to an open social space is a net positive imo!

They add a TON of stuff, for example payments, age control, marketing and a lot of other nonsense

I am interessed in the granular permission system and integrations

irc sucks

You do have control over it though, I don't get what you're saying

or furthermore, as an example, why not XMPP/Jabber?

Matrix is where people who don't want to talk to anyone go.

@@silverpill@mitra.social also Har.mony but don't compatible with Shoot (want to fix this, tho not very successful) and seems Sup waked up