Full title: NYC is now the first city in America that bans sketchy subscriptions / As of Thursday, the city's click-to-cancel rule has taken effect, which requires businesses to make it as easy to cancel a subscription as it is to sign up.

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[–] 141 points 1 month ago (1 child)

This was a federal rule, one guess who undid it.

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  • [–] 94 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    So set my VPN to NYC, got it

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    A lot of them probably will require proof of address like a lot with the California laws.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 month ago

    And it’ll only take one NYC resident to challenge that before the requirement is outlawed. If it doesn’t require proof of address to sign up, it shouldn’t require proof of address to cancel.

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  • [–] 168 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It's pretty crazy that the most no-duh common-sense policies solely exist under the banner of "radical communism." Almost makes one question the political compass.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 month ago

    “radical communism” 🙄

    the GOP and even a lot of people on “the left” in the US couldn’t give you half the description of what communism is. this regulation falls squarely under classical Liberalism, and despite their squawking about Libertarianism or whatever Republicans act more like Liberals than their ideology poisoned brains could comprehend.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    The political compass is fine, it's just the US which has sawed off the outer third of the left side x-axis, while eliminating the y-axis altogether, bunching authoritarian and libertarian groups into a constantly infighting sack of cats.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    This should be illegal everywhere but if you're in a place where it's not, you can still make these fuckers eat a chargeback fee while getting all your money back if you go through your bank or credit card company to show them documentation that they're effectively holding you financially hostage by ignoring your requests to cancel and making cancellation inaccessible.

    I got $800 back from a fraudulent "home warranty" from AHS this way and it was a pretty easy process via Visa. Even better that they got fined on top of being forced to give me a refund!

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  • I had a local company start ignoring my calls and emails after I send a request to cancel. I charged them back for one charge and then they charged me again. Here using someone's credit card without authorization is wire fraud. Then they charged me a third time. Now they have 2 wire fraud charges and credit cards companies won't take payment from them. They will most likely beat the criminal charges because corperations can basically steal from you without consequences but I had to do like 10 calls to the charge dispute department and by call 6 the agent I was dealing with was so pissed they told me they are going to blacklist them because it was a mystery how they were able to charge me repeatedly and they just needed to make it stop.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This is refreshing. I'm so tired of right wing people being like "the government can't do anything right and I'm going to prove it by sabotaging and starving the government".

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It might be the first city, but the state of California has had this for many many years. It’s a great law.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Genuine question, how does a municipal government pass and enforce a law like this? Where I live I don't think a municipal government could do this (both practically and legally)

    Who does this rule apply to and how would the city enforce it?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I presume that if they have an office there then can pressure them/sue them. Difficult at that level I suspect. I'm surprised they have the power to make a law like that devolved to them, in the UK it's pretty strict what local governments are allowed to legislate.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Just a friendly reminder that your city could be doing any of this right now as well.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Big Kwame does it again

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    If similar to equivalent state regs, when access to customers residing in that market is gated by compliance and subject to lawsuits or ban, the first phase of business-side operations change is immediately setting up minimum compliance workflow like a special webpage coupled with countermeasures (like proof of residency; IP historically difficult in court but has been used successfully for state-specific age gating) and boundary testing cycles. With especially large markets, however, the overhead associated with maintaining multiple separate workflows fails the efficiency test and the workflows are merged, which is how everyone tends to benefit from pro-consumer laws like GDPR.

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  • But won't anyone think of all the lost revenue for these companies who purposely made it exceptionally difficult to cancel subscriptions

    /s

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Mandami is like Trump, you hear about something he does every day, but it doesn't make you wanna jump off a highway onto a much lower highway exclusively for tractor trailers, in Phoenix.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Good luck getting planet fitness to allow this.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Planet fitness doesn't have fuck you money to defend this in a lawsuit. They'll comply to avoid being sued into irrelevance.

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Corporate only follows rules if they get enforcedht by, the city should have a portal for users to report abuse, and should hit them with 5% of their annual revenu as as fine.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Let's see of anyone makes me mail them a letter to sign up for their service...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Privacy.com lets you create virtual debit cards you can use for subscription services. Makes it easy to cancel subscriptions, as you can simply revoke the virtual card tied to the service without having to change payment methods on everything else.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Good they should do that and if a federal court halted it, is that court nuts or is it a constitutional issue the court has to deal with kind of.

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    [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    How the hell did we end up living in a world where common sense is considered revolutionary?

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