The way the commercialization of LLMs just ruined the word AI, word processors have been using AI in other ways for ages
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It's incredible how far we've got, as far as technology goes. A few months ago, we had to fight to get a device that would not connect to the internet. And now we're fighting to find software that actually do what it's supposed to do, and don't do what it's not supposed to do.
Can't wait for the next step. Heck, can't even imagine what it will be at this point.
It should also be a feature to have no AI used in the production. No AI assets, no AI concept art, no AI code, I don't want any of that slop touching my software
I really need to work on my 100% slop-free OS. The bulk of the work is getting a clean kernel setup, the compiler and libc working, and that's about it; the rest is easy.
P.S. wow you're me but a cis dude
Nice! Will it be a Linux distro, or its own thing? And if it is its own thing, how will it handle things from other OS, like exe from windows?
Also, when you say I am you, do you mean from my profile description we are the same? :3c
The Linux kernel is tAInted, so it would need to be forked. My current top choice is the NetBSD: it isn't going anywhere, and it's untainted.
I also looked at Redox (sadly Rust is tAInted, so it's a no-go), and Haiku (which is just... a little too obscure). GNU Hurd is tAInted too, and isn't as good of a kernel, so if I'm gonna clean up a kernel, it'll be Linux. Otherwise, it's gonna likely gonna be NetBSD.
So... not really a Linux distro, I'd say, but definitely a Unix-like OS.
As for software from other operating systems, it depends on the kernel I choose. If it's a Linux fork, I'll be super careful to keep it compatible with the Linux ABI. If it's NetBSD, there's compat_linux for Linux binaries. I believe Wine has taken an anti-"AI" stance, so Windows should be alright—if not: old versions exist.
As for your last question: I'm a transfemme (our main difference), (anarcho, probably)-communist, bi/pan, polyamorous, anti-"AI" programmer (who is very open to DMs (I'm lonely af)) :3
It already is and has been for a while... it's not rare to see "No AI" or "fully human made" on all kinds of things. Games, programs, videos etc.
This is a good reminder to finally dl it and bite the learning curve.
If you're familiar with pre-Office365 software then it'll feel a little intuitive already.
That makes me feel better… I disliked office 365. How does it compare with keyboard shortcuts? I barely use the mouse these days.
As a side note, damn we are an old bunch here.
I wasn't much of a power user to begin with but the Calc and Impress programs felt almost the same with some minor UI changes that take some getting used to like having to open a pop up settings menu rather than check the tools ribbon.
It certainly is. If you wanna feel like you've rewound 10 years in the past, you gotta pony up. And even still everything feels wrong.
But in the interim, before the bubble pops, I do see the value in having no AI as a feature, especially when the immediate alternative is "go fuck yourself".
One payment for actual slop removal, priced by devs properly to allow them somewhat equivalent revenue compared to if you were being data harvested - that's basically the only good way to do it if we're gonna do it.
No micro transactions and no double or triple or quadruple or quintuple or sextuple dipping on larger payments either.
When did everything become a fever dream?
also gluten free
I am still on open office, no ai there that I'm aware of.
I don't know, Integration with a local instance of ollama from an open source text editor it would be perfectly fine for me. I write enough that a grammar-aware typo correction would be awesome. At work I find Gmails AI suggestions quite useful, especially when writing in languages where i am not fluent. That buy open source and self hosted? Yes, please.
The thing is… this setup works. But is it good? I too find text corrections to be a great application, but thinking about it I'm just blindly accepting most suggestions. I use that tool because I'm not confident enough to double-check my spelling and grammar, so naturally I can't really double check the tool's output either.
In areas where I'm way more knowledgeable, the usefulness seems to vanish. Namely, writing code. It's doing really silly, yet valid things. The only difference is that I can spot them in this case, while on text correction I can't.
AI is shit. AI is decent.? When... People will argue.
Let's be honest and speak about it. IF and "AI" analyses and soley discusses what's going on on your machine with no outbound channels while recommending when a appointment is in your calendar, how much of a check you should pay, or why your invite to the pool on Sunday interferes with your date night... The AI is "bad" for using resources. Way worse if it consults resources.. it won't for those tasks though. It will for image generation. (Should likely never happen). So honestly, if you were to say what you hate about it outside of public opinion, what is it? The theft of ideas? Makes sense. The theft of property 100%. Now that it's done.. what does a person do?
What in the actual fuck are you even saying?
The worst part about this comment is that it says "edited" in the top. So this guy wrote the comment, posted it, read it back, realized that he needs to fix it, edited it, presumably looked it again and decided "yup, that's what I want to say" and sent it.
"I said a whole lot of nonsense. Whoops! Looks like a coherent thought snuck in there. Better edit that out."
Dudes getting dunked, let up a little lmao
Oh I meant my comment as a humorous way, not in a "this guy sucks!" way lol
I did get a laugh, but if it was for me, it'd break my heart lol
I didn't do much better up there
Yeah I get that. I have quite dead pan delivery and "blunt" humor IRL, that doesn't translate very well over text, I really should be more mindful about that. Wouldn't be the first, second or a hundredth time that someone mistook my stupid joke comments as a "fuck you".
Just yesterday a guy on IRC, who I've talked to for months said "I never know if you are joking or pissed off" lol.
And still left "soley".
IF and “AI” analyses and soley discusses what’s going on on your machine with no outbound channels while recommending when a appointment is in your calendar, how much of a check you should pay, or why your invite to the pool on Sunday interferes with your date night
Do you even adult dude?
You'd think that "no AI" would be an easy feature to implement, and it's much in demand. Strange that it seems to be beyond the abilities of so many software developers.
It's mostly just management dictating from the top-down. I've heard everything from "it's our company's direction" to "investors are only funding AI expenses" and nothing actually grounded on (B2C) customer feedback.
With the important reminder that top-management people typically have the IQ of a beetle, or less.
Colleagues in my last company are measured by their token consumption. Not how little they use, but if they use up all their budget in a month. If not, they're obviously bad for whatever they're measuring.
I was a software tester ages ago and I was measured by the amount of bugs I found. Didn't matter if it was a typo or some complicated crash that only occurred when all the stars aligned. I thought it was peak idiocy back then. But this new thinking beats that by far.
Yep, tokenmaxxing is a thing at some companies now. It often aligns with the same people competing to see who can generate the most lines of slop code (losc, which is different than sloc of course).
It wasn't long ago where people understood that every line of code you write is a line of code that could have a bug in it. The good devs still know this, but many are also being forced to generate shitty code just to appease their shitty management now.
As an aside, I have yet to see a case where tokenmaxxing generates a profit for either the consumer or the provider. It just reeks of the same "market capture at all costs" mindset that have plagued SV startups for so long.
It's more a question of agency than ability. Take this excerpt from the announcement:
For a company that sells subscriptions, an AI assistant justifies a price increase and strengthens the case for keeping all documents within its own infrastructure. The functionality and the business model reinforce each other, so integration is not only attractive but almost mandatory.
Anyone employed in such a company will have a hard time resisting. There's a mix of unrest and despair in the discipline right now. I've met colleagues drastically change careers over this. Sick leaves over mental health too.
I don’t think shots were intended to be fired at the Mozilla corporation, who can’t stop talking about their default, opt-out AI, but it paints a stark picture of the difference between a company that preaches privacy and choice, versus a company that actually provides those things.
I think they're also taking shots on telemetry. Firefox uses telemetry as evidence to support their decisions in ways that sometimes seem contrived or statistically incorrect (similar to only x% of people turned this default feature off, therefore it is good), making me feel as a user that contributing my telemetry to them is actually a bad thing that is encouraging their behaviour. Meanwhile TDF makes great software that follows what the community wants and needs without any telemetry collection.
Interesting perspective. As AI becomes more common in software development, choosing when not to use AI could become just as important as choosing when to use it
Thanks for (re?)posting this. I don't love LibreOffice, but I do love their stance on this. I liked Microsoft Office until they added AI (and doubled the price!). They got $60 a year from me for about 10 years, but now they get nothing. I started using Apple's iWork suite, though I don't much like it, but Apple added AI stuff in. I'd ignore it, but around every corner it's like "don't you want to pay for the AI and some other crap?" No. No TF I don't. So, I think I'll just roll with LibreOffice.
I also appreciate that they offer torrent downloads. That allows me to download from other users, take the load off their server, and then share my download with other users. That's always nice.
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