I prefer this response to Gerard's rant:

Bringing an on-going discussion from outside into a thread with which it bore no relationship, The correct way to proceed is to alert mods, sysadmins or another participant in the discussion privately. What happened is akin to someone walking into a restaurant and seemingly randomly punching another patron. They're going to get thrown out.

Damn what a completely out of touch response. Many people point out that this was basically a badly handled abuse report that a user brought to a main thread instead of reporting, however that does not and never did justify the original and continued ban of the first person to report on it.

I am especially galled by the "and ad hominem attacks on another user (even if it turned out they deserved it)." bit. Dude, maybe someone's motivations matter. Acting like attacking someone's motivations are always out of place is part of what lets this kind of shit fester and grow. Everyone has motivations, and a lot of people's motivations are deeply unsavory.

Bruh my Kubuntu minimal install. Welp. *sigh que sera sera, we all move on sometime.

Bye bye KDE.

Wait, is KDE becoming an AI desktop? Your video is unclear.

a worthwhile read in regards to what pushing AI does to a contributor and a community: https://blog.fallible.net/it-breaks-a-village/

Thankfully the culture of Linux power users (I am not one) is firmly anti-AI. There are several reasons for this, and not all are altruistic, but it's the right approach to have. Dummies like me have to use it for commands, codes, and scripts, but I'm not going to be submitting ANYTHING to any kind of actual project, because I recognize my incompetence.

plus there is absolutely no way of knowing how many of the pro-AI voices are even real people

the hysteria is taking on a new life of its own and i guess it makes sense considering how people's materials conditions are being diminished on our education system as well as our media doesn't enable us to understand why or how.

I mean, I'm not sure the hysteria is completely unreasonable. AI does pose multiple legitimate threats and should be used responsibly, and not trusted with certain duties. We've also seen that the powers that be treat the world around them like a fratboy treats a drunken co-ed (it's meant to be disgusting), and that the constant growth demanded by the shareholders leaves no room for ethics, morals, or big-picture thinking.

I use AI. I also built my own for simple tasks. I've had a lot of experiences with AI at this point, and its generous to say the pros-cons are a wash. The use-cases I and most normies see is AI expediting an already blazing fast enshitification of everything around us.

Noctalia is vibe-coded.

Noctalia looks interesting. Never heard of it before. Unfortunately though there's no packages for Void Linux.

or CDE instead of KDE.

I don't want my WM of choice to be X11-based.

i3 is way too barebones. Also it's not as extensible as KDE. Also it's strictly tiling, while most ppl prefers stacking and/or floating WMs.

Also, it's tainted:

• https://github.com/i3/i3?tab=contributing-ov-file#ai-contribution-policy
• https://github.com/i3/i3/commit/8f09b7f04632a9b99f2a5f584401659589dd008e
• https://github.com/i3/i3/commit/9be3249ac5b377ed3270e36bca83df53d8023337

Look further here for actual alternatives.

@alex@eloquer.de Yes it matters for many reasons. First, neuronal networks degenerate without new input. And once they are trained on 99% LLM output, it just takes 10 generations to get garbage out on the level of a child's first words. That is especially true if future models are bound to one or two companies, because nobody else can pay the costs of development or the hardware to run on. That also causes heavily democratic issues. Furthermore the models will be manipulated more and more over time -> enshittification. How can you be sure that it creates the program you want without build-in tracking? And do we have 100% green energy in 50 years (which we require much earlier) or is LLM one of the reasons we could not reach it? In best case it is a bet that "everything will just go right", but the experience in tech with super scaled companies is more that everything will go wrong that could go wrong. What if one of the companies becomes so big, that one or two produce 95% of all software in the world via LLM? It is a highly political topic, not just for "is LLM output still FOSS compatible or not?" (which is not as far as the LLM itself is not 100% FOSS, which is far more than "open weight").