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I'd argue that if we normalize people barging into random threads and accusing others of facism, that would make everybody feel unsafe. Remember that once you normalize this behavior, the fascists can use it too.

... ends up creating a scandal ...Very visibly, I might add.

The person who barged in making public accusations, is the one that created a visible scandal. That's why there's a proper channel for reports. Precisely to prevent this sort of mess.

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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

MaddieM advocated for removing the post, that's not even close to "normalizing" it imo

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[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just removing the post without any punishment to the user, just means the user can do it again.

A ban is fairly harsh I admit, but usually bans only happen for repeat offenders. I don't know the full context here.

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[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

we should normalize accusing fascists of fascism

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[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can report people all you like. Just use proper channels to do so.

We should normalize due process.

Normalizing people making up their own rules and exacting their own justice is how you end up with https://lemmy.world/post/52260289

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[–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah. The point is that it can be a slippery slope. Everybody (myself included, I have to be honest bcs well, I'm a very stupid human after all) will be calling anything we don't like something fascist, thus making it a worthless term. That's what actual fascism want.

Thus, we should be way more careful with the use of that word.

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[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child)

Did you know that "fascist" has a meaning?

You are saying: "I don't want to call people racist, because what if it turns into a slippery slope and everyone is called a racist? That's what racists want."

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[–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah, it has a meaning, but what I mean is something that actually happens: people often make equivocal fallacies, such as the reductio ad Hitlerum of the reductio ad Stalinum to say "hey, this worker union is fascist because it makes me earn one less penny" even if that's what not fascism means. Also happens with racism, so your example only makes my point stronger. A lot of KKK are like "NoOOOooOo, but these black bastards are being racist to me because they don't want me to kill them!". Just the same. They're using an equivocal fallacy so they can pass their Troy Horse through.

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[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

Why not ban person A? Being a nazi is a rule violation, but reporting people by barging in on unrelated threads (instead of simply contacting the mods) is also a rule violation.

Somebody else can report the nazi via proper channels, and person A learns the proper way to report people.

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