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[–] 151 points 1 month ago (39 children)

Hedley pleaded guilty to assaulting Mr Brown to his severe injury, ** permanent impairment **

Fuck me... that's rough. He should be forced to pay for the rest of his life, get anger management courses, and psychological help.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Found a gofundme page, not sure of its veracity

    "On March 26th, Iain was out doing what he loved most β€” cycling. But that day took a tragic turn. Iain was thrown from his bike in a devastating accident, resulting in a serious spinal cord injury. He now faces life with severely limited movement in both his arms and legs"

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  • [–] 105 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Nothing about that was an accident

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (32 children)

    There is no amount of psychological help that can change a conservative into a normal person. They are just violent by nature.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (23 children)

    I don't disagree with you statement but where did you come up with "conservative"? I didn't see that distinction anywhere in the linked article.

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  • [+] -20 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    Their violent nature gives them away as conservatives. A normal person does not violently attack people with no real provocation like that. Only a conservative does that. Notice how naturally it came to him and his wife. Conservatives are violent by nature and attacking people is normal behavior for them. That is an almost exclusively conservative trait.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (19 children)

    Its difficult to tell if you're a useful idiot or just not useful but trolling.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    I might be an idiot. But I am honest in my absolute hatred of conservatives. I do not value their lives in the tiniest amount, just as they do not value the lives of non-conservatives. If that's what idiot trolls think, then I guess I'm guilty.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    "an entire group of people is psychotic, so in turn, it is justified that I am psychotic"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    Conservatives have described me to my face as their enemy for over 50 years. I turned the other cheek over and over again. And now that I finally agree with them that I am their enemy, I am now "psychotic"? Ok. Well, that can be part of the headline then.

    Conservatives are truly, deeply evil. Anyone who defends conservatives at this point is as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    I'm not defending anything but objective truth. You've done nothing to not seem like a psycho btw.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Sorry I come off like a psycho. Maybe decades of being berated and told I am their enemy has contributed to my low opinion of conservatives. But as long as they continue to celebrate as their hired goons murder innocent people in the streets and throw us in concentration camps, I cannot pretend they are wrong when they call me their enemy. It would be immoral to not be their enemy at this point.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    So in your mind the options are either "pretend they are wrong, I am not their enemy" and "violently burn them all alive"? This is not clear or healthy thinking.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (10 children)

    We don't have to be precious about it, it's easy to see why they'd feel that way. In a calmer mood you still know it's wrong, but it seems disingenuous to pretend it's incomprehensible how someone could be in those feelings.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    it’s incomprehensible how someone could be in those feelings

    Looks like you made that up, since I never said that. They calmly said they are justified in erasing their empathy for other people. I can point out that this is wrong. They didn't even bother being specific enough to say "nazis". Their username even implies they want to burn vast numbers of people alive.

    lol @ "precious"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I didn't realise it would be so controversial to say "maybe forgive the overheated rhetoric of someone who probably agrees with >80% of your politics but has clearly emotional issues around a subject", I'll try to keep in mind that respectability politics are still somehow respectable to some. Let's just all belittle anyone who doesn't talk perfectly, that's going to save the world any day now.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Literally what the hell are you talking about? We're not looking at same facts obviously. "I want to kill lots of people" is not "oh he's just letting off a little steam"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Oh, you're taking the guy at face value. Yeah no, that would be insane, right? I read him as a burned-out bad luck nebbish who has massive blatant trauma and talks shit (externalises) to cope. Not a hero by any means, but definitely a person in pain whose heart isn't that far from the right place.

    Maybe I'm projecting, or maybe taking people at face value on social media is a recipe to have lots of pointless overheated arguments. Tough one to call, how about you keep doing that and let me know how it goes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

    A conservative is biologically unable to experience empathy for others. I have spent decades being berated and condemned by conservatives for experiencing empathy, even for them.

    Conservatives call empathy "wokeness". They despise it. There is absolutely no reason to have empathy for them. They are building more concentration camps right now and you're talking about empathy for them. Come on. Please be reasonable.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Yeah. I agree. I used to be funny and enjoy life. I have been a pacifist for over 50 years. Pacifism seems immoral to me in the face of fascism now. How can a good person stand by and watch 100 million people celebrate as their hired thugs murder innocent people in the streets and disappear people into concentration camps?

    I cannot morally justify pacifism against such an enemy. They will eventually come for me and my family. And they will celebrate our deaths just as they celebrate the deaths of all their other victims. If I do nothing to physically stop them, I would be complicit. Conservatives are genuinely evil and they will never stop on their own.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I hope you don't do anything violent. You're certainly hinting you will.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    I cannot see the morality in standing by and watching conservatives kill innocent people and put folks in concentration camps. They are celebrating our deaths. They will eventually come for me and my family. What am I supposed to do?

    If I had a way to escape with my family I would choose that first. But I don't. So fighting is the only option I am left with. There's not much I can do from inside a concentration camp. The most effective time to act is before then, while I can still accomplish something.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    What a stupid take. Cult deprogramming is a thing.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    MAGA is a cult. Conservatism is not. A conservative cannot be changed by any amount of "deprogramming". They are biologically unable to experience empathy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yes, they can. There's a reason that college "turns kids liberal." It's because meeting people from various cultures and backgrounds and learning that they're just people too does a lot to combat the indoctrination they experienced.

    Many of these people literally don't know any better because they've been lied to their whole lives. Critical thinking and questioning authority is actively punished. The media that they were raised on trained them to think that any other source is lying to them.

    It takes work, sometimes a lot of it, but most people can be reached. I've personally helped several people, even converting a "god put dinosaur bones in the ground 6k years ago to test us" believer.

    But saying every conservative is a sociopath incapable of change just shows that you lack the ability to be empathetic. If there's absolutely no room for forgiveness, then what reason do they have to change?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    I appreciate your position. That was my position until the conservatives started killing people in the streets.

    I also agree on the point regarding education. But to be fair, I don't consider a 20 year old a real conservative, simply because they barely understand themselves yet. A young person who is able to experience empathy will eventually find their empathy completely incompatible with conservatism. It is not possible to experience empathy for others and hold conservative views simultaneously. Conservative views fundamentally defy empathy. Education speeds up that realization for young people, which is why it looks like it "turns them" into normal people.

    Many conservatives are college educated. The reason they didn't change in college is because they couldn't feel empathy in college, just as they cannot feel empathy after college.

    I'm glad you were able to reach someone who identified as conservative. That's not easy at all. I tried to change my conservative friends, family and colleagues for decades. Getting your friend to change is an exceptional accomplishment. If they are able to experience empathy, then I am sure their change will be permanent.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Those are maga thugs. You made the distinction between the two earlier.

    The conservative voters think everyone ICE is kidnapping or killing is a violent criminal, because the media they were brainwashed into believing tells them so.

    And they're also trained that empathy is a weakness. That's why you often see them change stances when something actually affects them. It's not because they're incapable of being empathetic, it's because they've been trained not to be and the issue impacting them sometimes makes them realize how other people felt.

    Of course, I'm definitely not saying that every person can be converted. Some people are too entrenched, but it's definitely not all of them. But it's absolutely a mistake to dehumanize every conservative like that. It's one of the main tactics of fascism, and removes empathy from the equation.

    Also, the approach to converting these people is crucial. If they even catch a hint that you're talking down to them or trying to prove them wrong, they'll shut down. You have to make it seem like you're on board with their position, and ask clarifying questions to plant seeds of doubt.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I'm not downvoting you. You are engaging in good faith, and I appreciate your instinct toward kindness to them.

    When conservatives are shown definitive proof that their thugs are harming innocent people, they do not change their position. They simply say, "well, I don't know about that". But that is a lie. They DO know about that. They do know what is happening right now and they are absolutely not interested in changing or stopping it. Their representatives hold both chambers of congress. Conservatives can stop this anytime they like and they are actively choosing not to. They completely understand the situation at this point and are choosing evil.

    I agree that they are trained to see empathy as weakness. Growing up in south Texas, living there my whole life and then retiring there, I was told empathy was a grotesque weakness my entire life. Every person who told me that was a conservative who could not experience empathy. Because I am able to experience empathy, their lies could not work on me. But the lies worked very well on my friends, neighbors and colleagues who could not experience empathy.

    I have been nothing but kind and supportive of them my entire life, mostly because I didn't want to blame them for their biological shortcomings. It's not their fault they can't experience empathy. But it is their fault that they choose to harm others and celebrate that harm. Their inability to feel guilt or empathy does not absolve them. They choose to be the very definition of evil.

    I have never talked down to them. I have always been supportive and have used the Socratic method and genuine, patient curiosity to try to reach them. I mourn the loss of my friends anf family that I have disowned. No amount of patience and kindness has been effective in changing them from being a deadly threat to the vulnerable around them. Their choices result in concentration camps and the loss of human rights. And they still celebrate it.

    Conservatives will never stop harming others on their own. No amount of patience or love can make them stop. This is the sad reality of conservatism. It is cancer. There is only one way to stop cancer.

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  • [–] 85 points 1 month ago

    Violent idiot doing idiotic violent things to show just how much of a 'big man' he is.

    Well there you go, 'big man', you've caused another person a brain injury...and yet I bet you still blame the other person for "getting in the way".

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  • [–] 70 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Edinbuger here.

    They reported this in the local paper today, you know it's bad when the Edinburgh evening news was taking the side of the cyclist.

    But then again Edinburgh drivers think they are above the law and riot when not catered to as God emperors of the city. Every time there's an improvement to public transport or cycling or pedestrian areas, they throw a hissy fit.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I'm sure that's a local phenomenon, it's not like every city everywhere claims they have the worst drivers (except the person who shares that fact about their city, who either doesn't drive or isn't too bad in comparison).

    A braver person would claim something like "(bad) drivers are like that everywhere", but that would mean we need to overhaul the whole transport system instead of reminding specific cities of the traffic laws.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    The fucker belongs to jail. He's danger to society.

    99% Of sane people wouldn't have to resort to violence about some shitty I-passed-before-you you-cut-me-off situation! How late was he going to be 1 minute extra?! Whoever was wrong intentional or not! Okay sorry calm down your tits have a nice day gtfo.. But why take it there!

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It's never been a worse time to be a cyclist in the UK the amount of hard men who shout abuse at me is unreal, and i only go out on a Sunday for leisure. Never happens when I go out with a group though.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago

    WTF! Someone needs locking the fuck up.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago

    I wish I hadn't seen this. Genuinely this needs a content warning.

    I feel so badly for the victim. His life is over even if he technically survived.

    Straight up attempted murder in my eyes.

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  • Why were they out of their car anyway? Solid move, potential lethally injuring someone and then shuffle off. Great people, both of them, really.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    People should loose their right to drive for this

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  • [–] 113 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    That's grievous bodily harm. This fucker belongs in jail.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I don't believe in jail. Take away his license, make him pay Iain's bills for the rest of his life, and give him mandatory counseling.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    So he's clearly a threat to society and you think he should be loose while he's being counseled? What if he hurts someone else?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (2 children)

    He should have a full time minder for the next three weeks (6-9 counselling sessions) to follow him around and make sure he doesn't. The minder should be a big burly government employee tasked with keeping him out of trouble. The minder should have extensive training in de-escalation skills, and a decent grasp of martial arts, just in case.

    I think those three weeks would be quite humiliating and he wouldn't want to do it again.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    And who's paying for that? Ideally it would be great but that sounds like at least 100x the budget of what we have now.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago*

    Scotland should take the money out of the road building and maintenance budget. Scotland doesn't need cars and Scotland doesn't need roads for cars. Cheaper to invest in public rail.

    Roads got Scotland into this mess, quit building roads until the mess is fixed!

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  • [–] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    People should loose their right to drive be a part of society for this

    FTFY

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    [–] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Do you feel the guy who did this to the cyclist will be hit with attempted murder charges?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Unlikely, he will probably go with something like "I just wanted to topple him" and they will accept it and probably give him "causing injury by reckless behaviour" or sth like that

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    This guy should be locked up in prison for atleast a decade and the woman for couple years for leaving an injured person on the road. But they will likely anyways plead guilt and go with something like "I did not mean to push him that hard, I just wanted to topple him" bla bla. His shirt explains everything one needs to know; wears a shirt thay says England with a lion, lives in Edinburgh and probably wants immigrants out of UK. What a tool.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago

    this is fucking terrifying😭😭😭

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    Top comment on the article, from "mrbmww":

    The sad thing is,because he laid hands on the cyclist, Even if it was the cyclists fault.The driver will get done.

    The actual fuck? He thinks it's sad that someone who takes another person, throws him violently onto the ground and leaves him unconscious and bleeding and drives off "gets done"? And that that somehow means that there is discrimination against motorists??

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Need NSFW tag

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (7 children)
  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    paywall for me, could someone copy paste here, I still have (naives) hopes that some justice has been done

    and how do they break the reader mode: it loop back to the wall? It's the first time I've seen this

    edit: the link in the post description worked, but I take from this that he's still walking free at the moment

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago

    Joseph Hedley became involved in a confrontation with the cyclist before violently attacking him at the city’s Cowgate in September 2024.

    Hedley, 39, left his vehicle and approached the innocent male, before grabbing him by the neck and violently throwing him to the ground.

    The victim smashed his head off the road and suffered serious head injuries, including a fractured skull and bleeding on the brain.

    Hedley then left the 34-year-old cyclist lying unconscious in the middle of the road as he got back into his car and drove off.

    Hedley, fromΒ Kirkcaldy, subsequently found out police had put out an appeal to find the motorist involved and handed himself into a local station two days later.

    He pled guilty to assault to severe injury, permanent impairment and danger of life when he appeared atΒ Edinburgh Sheriff CourtΒ on Tuesday.

    That's the main jist of things

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Im normally against the death penalty,

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