I don't know a lot of people who assume the name Paola is male. This feels like a strawman argument.
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I did not, I actually did not think about the scientist at all. I was distracted by the tiny cat. CAT!
The tiny super cute cat.
so cute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilcayo#/media/File:Leopardus_tilcayo_(5x3_cropped).jpg
Look at this tiny house cat in a leopard costume
I didn’t either. I kinda assumed it was them having a group of already identified cats and then doing science-y stuff and saying “wait! This one’s different!” And poof, new species.
what's... what's going on here?
New type of cat just dropped
Did it land on its feet?
but what is the source of the "white guy" controversy? where are people reading about this new cat and commenting on the race and gender of the discoverer?
Some people online have started to either seriously or jokingly equate headlines saying "Scientists discovered" with "white guys found out something the natives have known about for years"
This is a specific type of callout post with justifiable ire about that, but to the tone of "for fucks sake not all scientists are white guys. Behold; the scientist who discovered the new cat."
I feel like this isn't about a cat
People were assuming that the biologist that discovered the new cat species was a white guy. She's a Bolivian biologist who is decidedly not a white guy.
Just your average casual sexism weaving it's way through social media as usual.
People were assuming that the biologist that discovered the new cat species was a white guy.
where?
I’m answering what the OG post is talking about. I can dig up examples just as well as you can, but I’m not at my desk at the moment.
The OP says “this site” and it looks like maybe Tumblr?
So why is tumblr's issue our problem?
If you didn’t assume she was a white guy, then this isn’t targeting you. You can put your pitchfork down.
I can dig up examples just as well as you can, but I’m not at my desk at the moment.
you should have done that before posting this screenshot out of context. If you're not willing to verify something is true, then don't repost it on social media.
I didn't post the screenshot
I'm not the OP
fine. The point stands though, OP should have provided context for this actually being an issue.
It's really common for people to assume scientists are white men.
A newly published University of Virginia study has found that about two-thirds of students in a third- through fifth-grade extracurricular astronomy program perceive scientists as white men in labs, mixing chemicals – even as women and people of color increasingly work as scientists.
The study authors found that these perceptions persist even after elementary school students have been tutored under young female scientists in a program designed to increase understanding of and exposure to astronomy.
We found that the scientist image was rated predominantly as White and male, which reflects stereotypes about who pursues scientific careers. The scientist image was also rated more negatively than the other CIs on several characteristics, which may indicate negative biases toward scientists as unsociable, poor communicators, and incompetent authority figures, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic.
This isn't a made up phenomena just for social media. It really happens.
I saw the article before but didn't read the details, if I had seen the name ending with an -a I would have thought a woman. But that's also probably because I knew a guy named Paolo.
There is absolutely sexism as well as racism still lurking around in the average person's assumptions. Seems a connected world hasn't (yet) fixed that. Might take more time.
Oh. Well, if that's the whole story, then this is a pretty weak science meme
Eh there’s value in calling out sexist assumptions.
I guess so, it just would be nice to see two people verbally sparring, instead of a one-person narrative about a supposed firestorm
It’s an old trope that people assume any scientist is a white man.
https://lemmy.ca/post/71094265
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/tilcayo-tiger-cat-new-species-9.7349140
yes but what's all the "white guy" stuff?
It's in response to an assumption that's described here, but not included here.
There’s a running assumption that the scientist that discovered this new cat species is a white guy. It’s not.
on tumblr especially, there is a belief that science is essentially only a thing white european/american men do and they impose their vision of the world onto everyone, hence "discovering" a new cat species (which was actually known to locals since forever)
it’s an understandable belief, given the very imperialist and colonialist history of science and the legacy that this leaves behind. but it also completely erases the many contributions to science from other people, like here, where the tilcayo was first formally described by a Bolivian woman, and named after the name local Indigenous people give to the cat
There’s a running assumption
citation needed
If you read the comment section, someone already did:
At no point did I think of the scientists gender. I don’t think I ever have considered the gender of a scientist.
Hell another cat could’ve discovered this cat and I’d never know until someone mentioned it.
And here I was imagining a diverse group of scientists, because science is rarely done by just one person anyway.
Not only did I not assume that but this is also the first time I've stooped so low as to waste time discussing whether or not we think a scientist is a white guy based on their name.
P.S. Has anybody ever in their life met a white guy named Paola?
For context on the original Tumblr post, which I know I reblogged but can't seem to find, was discourse surrounding the headlines saying we've "discovered" something that already existed, which in turn led to users generalizing these scientists as old white guys who don't respect where these discoveries are made.
This other post I could find says it better than I. 
Have people been assuming they're a white guy?
I can't even really think of a context when discussing the cat when the scientists gender and especially race would come up?
I want to snuggle with the kitty.
Thank you to those who tried to translate for the contextually bereft.
I just thought it was cool to see a picure of the person who identified our new Babu.
Most biologist are women if I recall correctly.
If someone talks me about a discovery in biology I think my mind would automatically picture a woman as the author.
"Extreamly weird how many people I've seen assume she is a white guy"
I thought she was a cat. That's what we were talking about. White? She is more of a yellow orange with tan to brown spots.
/s
Then there's me, knowing about Mary Somerville, confused, because the word was invented to include women. The term before was 'man of science' and it so seemed inappropriate a term for Mary. Hence: 'scientist'.
I'm trying, but where do I accent Ascarrunz? AscarRUnz or AscARrunz?


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