His statement:

His statement:

This is awesome
This is fucking awesome.
awww Kraft must feel this burn pretty deep
( I love hardrock/metal/progrock and i'm not into rap whatsoever, but i'm gonna listen Macklemore's work today )
now the zionist entity sheeran has been cancelled back to his stupid settler colonial dungeon and palestine is victorious and free, we can finally afford to complete the metro system in gaza and allow public access
Youre not even wrong.
This was nice of Macklemore and all....but at the end of the day there have STILL been dozens of Palestinians who had their children, bodies , homes , and businesses blown in the two months since Macklemore made this pledge....soooo....
Its just that lemmings, and most of humanity for that matter sadly, hate ro hear the truth that monetary pledges and heightened awareness dont always lead to required changes in a conflict to reparate the affected and to prevebt the event from reigniting ever again.
Robert Kraft is just going to donate $1 million to sex trafficking
I'm an old man who had no idea who Macklemore was until this week. This guy is fucking cool.
Kraft released a statement shortly after Macklemore, saying that he was contacted by Sheeran before the rapper put out his statement to ask for a $2 million match to aid in the region.
I hate to be the "devils in the details guy", but what region is Kraft talking about?
From further down in the article:
Pink wrote that she was not trying to get any artist fired or silence anyone but that she took issue with Macklemore’s putting “violent images” of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza up in a stadium filled with families, then telling Jews in the audience that “it wasn’t about them.”
She's mad that Macklemore put up pictures of the shit that the Israeli military did? But she takes no issue with what the military itself did?
Kraft said in a statement shortly thereafter that Sheeran contacted him before Macklemore put out his statement to ask for a $2 million match to aid in the region.
Yes. sure he did. What a coincidence that must've been, and it was for double the amount.
“Ed now plans to reach out to other venue owners and our goal is to continue to work together to build bridges,” Kraft wrote.
Yes, because that will fix it.. /s
If $1M was the entirety of his earnings for the Sheeran tour, Kraft should be matching with the entirety of his earnings for the same time period. It’s only fair.
The world would be a much better place if rich people competed in who can feed the most people in conflict zones more often.
MS rachel already is matching his donation by giving 1mil of her own to palestine. and she called out celebrities to do the same, although she said "white celebs"
I find it funny that on all these Ed and Macklemore posts there's exactly 1 downvote on all the comments.
Somebody's salty. I can almost see their expression as they go through every comment downvoting with full on "I'll show them all" Nerd Rage coursing through their body.
I get one downvote on every single thing I comment on. someone loves me.
That one downvoter (I bet I know who it is but I don't want to prejudice at that racist fuck):
You can look it up elsewhere, but then the downvoter wins.
I have no idea what anyome in this particular thread is talking about but now Im curiois. Please explain?
On some clients you can see how many upvotes and downvotes there are, not just the total.
Hi, I'm wondering how many people would agree with this statement:
"I am not antisemitic, I am anti-genocide, and these are two different things."
Just trying to understand general sentiments.
I mean. Those are two different things. I don't know how someone could disagree with it.
That's my first thought but I know some people are very touchy on this topic. The challenge is to say something most people will agree with. It seems like some people pick a side between violence and non-violence, others pick a side between the people groups, some seem to make the two inseparable, and others make it separable.
The issue is more the bad faith actors who will ignore what you say and just call you antisemetic anyway.
Well, now you're getting into people parroting talking points back so they don't have to think about what you're saying. I wish you luck with that battle. I've had it many times. Using things people feel strongly about might help; like the Afghanistan "conflict". If someone is informed about the atrocities american's commited and are against it, that can be likened to Israel's treatment of Palestinians and might get them to think.
It's looks like as long as you voice out against what Israel is doing in Gaza, you are branded an antisemite... That term has since lost its meaning.
"Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer"
general sentiment: Gazans are currently paying the price for 80+ years of making the wrong political decisions and supporting terrorism.
genocide claims are specious at best. Just like at the end of WW2, where a lot of German civilians had to die as a consequence of bad political decisions made back in the 1930's. Even if they didn't vote for Hitler, all had to pay the price collectively. In this world, sometimes, that's just the way it goes. Time to pay the piper. Chickens come home to roost and all of that.
general sentiment: shout less slogans you heard on social media, and read a history book now and then.
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What constitutes a genocide? What is your personal definition of a genocide, and what makes you consider the actions that Israel is undertaking in Gaza not satisfy that definition?
By the way, it's very nice to speak to someone who has read the history books, because I have, like, a bunch of questions.
What poor political decision lead to the deir yassin massacre? Is there any particular political decision that caused settlers to burn entire cillages to the ground in the 40s? Who made that decision?
And what poor political decision on the part of the Palestinians lead to the ethnic cleansing of 400k arabs in 1967?
And what decision lead to the murder of 3000 palestinian refugees over the span of two nights in the refugee camps sabra and shatila?
What poor political decision lead to
Both sides walking away in 1947...
Although time has demonstrated that it was a bigger mistake for the Palestinians than it was for the Jews.

Ok, I didn't expect much, but this is very little. When you said we should read the history books, which books did you mean? Did you read them? Have you read any Pappé? Have you read Morris' early work?
And when you completely ignored my question about what your personal definition of genocide is, and how it leads you to deny the genocide in Gaza, was that because you don't have or know one? I feel like this is the more important of the questions I asked. Just like with your intellectual siblings, holocaust deniers, I expect you to either put up or shut up.
I do think corny is an appropriate word to describe him, but he has always seemed genuine and sweet as hell.
How much have you listened to? If your exposure is through radio or other mainstream stream playlists, then you're probably hearing the same type of sample as you do Lady Gaga. The pop hits make money to fund the heartfelt art made with talent. There's a few dozen songs past Thrift Shop, And We Danced, and Downtown. Shit, check out the video to Glorious
I became a fan around when Wings came out. Had Irish Celebration on my warmup playlist. Talked to him on a small Livestream he and Ryan did shortly before Heist released. Snuck into nearly the front row of a concert he did at a local uni. In like '13. Followed him pretty actively until he and Ryan parted ways. Never stopped liking him, but just fell to the wayside in my listening habits. Was Glorious the one where the video was him taking his grandma or someone out on the town for their birthday? That video was adorable.
Yes, Glorious was the one with his grandma. Clearly you have deeper exposure to him and Ryan so I'm now genuinely curious, what makes him corny? I was assuming his light/parody music, of which the corny sample is visibly represented in every thread on the topic. I don't follow his personal life at all outside a few prior social/political statements
When this whole drama broke like 1 or 2 days ago, reading the headlines, I was afraid I'd have to stop listening and supporting Macklemore. The headlines were vague. I'm so happy and artist I love is not a Zionist asshole
A lot more to give for macklemore versus billionaire kraft. He'll likely say he's going to match or exceed for optics. At least challenge kraft back at that point to tell him to share receipts publicly. He likely doesn't donate shit, or donates to a sham fund.
Doesn't Kraft donate enormous sums of money to Israel?
Very cool of him to do and standing behind his convictions.
Also something I came across today from Two youtubers, Lindsay Ellis and Todd in the Shadows: https://store.dftba.com/products/tribute-to-ed-sheerans-bravery-fundraiser-t-shirt
Seems like a nice chap that I can align with, definitely shouldn’t be kicked off Zionist sympathisers tours for being level headed
Hey a reminder to check his music and get his numbers up
he also has 3 songs specifically about shit like that:
(so make sure they get more popular)
I've been iffy about this guy for a very long time, but I fully support what he's doing here with his support of Palestine and with challenging Kraft.
For reference on my iffiness on this guy, he's always seemed a bit too calculated with his public facing social consciousness (rapping about white privilege, really?). But he also performed "Thrift Shop" while wearing this costume:

Yeah this keeps being brought up now almost like it's a retaliation campaign, suspicious. He's apologized about this 12 years ago
Macklemore issues apology following accusations of anti-semitism
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/20/macklemore-apology-accusations-anti-semitism
I don't listen to his music, but I lived in Seattle at the time. I never knew about the apology, but I do remember quite a lot of people talking about the costume at work in the days that followed. AFAIK he's not done anything else anti-semitic, and I'm not trying to tear him down. Was just explaining part of why I've felt iffy about him. He can be iffy in my eyes and still be on the right side of history here
He apologized and even the ADL accepted the apology yet you still bring that propaganda here. Shame on you
What's iffy about white people calling out other white people? Isn't that what we want more of?
Also last time I checked, rapping was not an exclusive activity that only black people are allowed to participate in. In fact, in my admittedly anecdotal experience: black people are largely OK with whoever rapping, as long as they're not trying to mock rap or black people in the process. Don't do the art dirty and all are welcome, and all that
I don’t recognise him here
I assume it’s a Zionist disinformation campaign
Stop killing people Isreal
That's cute and all but I seriously doubt the monies are going to go where it's supposed to go. He would have been better off donating to homeless shelters.
It would be more awesome if he went to live in Palesrine and shared his views on LGBTQ+
This is such a dumb fucking argument. I’ll never live in Palestine or most everywhere on planet earth. If some country decided to blow up entire cities in Indonesia I would be equally opposed.
Yeah so it turns out that people that are constantly being bombed back to the stone age don't really have the bandwidth to develop progressive viewpoints. Queer Palestians die to Israeli bombs just the same as any other.
queer Palestinians die to Palestinian machetes more though.
That's some bullshit.
Current estimates are at about 76,000 dead from Isreal's genocide, a third of which are children. There is not 76,000 dead queer Palestinians who've died at the hands of other Palestinians in the last 3 years.
This is a braindead take that a 5 second Google search could solve.
today class we're learning about population density and per capita.
Apparently not, because the population of Palestinians will always equal the population of Palestinians no matter what. You didn't think through this.
I'm 100% positive that there are far less Palestinians right now then there were nine months ago.
Still went over your head.
The amount of Palestinians that exist right now is the number of Palestinians that exists right now. The amount of Palestinians 9 months ago is equal to the number of Palestinians 9 months ago. You're failing to understand that the comparison here is death type not population capitas.
how dare you try to apply logic to a complex political issue!
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