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[–] 148 points 1 month ago (10 children)
  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    God I love to see people centering the need for the liberation for the oppressed rather than any of the other shit, fucking well written statement.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't like to see people centering. Left-aligned text is the only readable option (in LTR languages).

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I appreciate this but also it is missing a middle section about a 15 year old child being killed while trying to rush to help an aide worker. Muhammad Al Zinati and Sherif Lubbad respectively.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Could be thousands of obituaries, but that can't be the middle of every comment on the subject

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think they're saying that the full statement had that and this is not the full statement?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago

    Correct, I wasn’t trying to minimize or create any discourse. Just noted that I went to the source and read the statement again and noticed a portion missing. Instead of just pointing that out it felt more appropriate to give some more air time to the names that I did learn from the original source. They all are deserving of recognition and acknowledgement. I had no intention of speaking negatively of the user that graciously shared what they did nor minimize the countless other victims, just wanted to speak the names of those who were mentioned in a respectful way.

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  • [–] 174 points 1 month ago (6 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    now the zionist entity sheeran has been cancelled back to his stupid settler colonial dungeon and palestine is victorious and free, we can finally afford to complete the metro system in gaza and allow public access

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Youre not even wrong.

    This was nice of Macklemore and all....but at the end of the day there have STILL been dozens of Palestinians who had their children, bodies , homes , and businesses blown in the two months since Macklemore made this pledge....soooo....

    Its just that lemmings, and most of humanity for that matter sadly, hate ro hear the truth that monetary pledges and heightened awareness dont always lead to required changes in a conflict to reparate the affected and to prevebt the event from reigniting ever again.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Robert Kraft is just going to donate $1 million to sex trafficking

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm an old man who had no idea who Macklemore was until this week. This guy is fucking cool.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago

    Yes he is. I'm from Seattle so I have a little bit of a headstart on you. But his music is not only catchy but a love letter to the city and state that birthed him. Washington state is beautiful and he really captures that.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago

    I'd wager Kraft has already surpassed that amount, just not to Palestine.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Kraft released a statement shortly after Macklemore, saying that he was contacted by Sheeran before the rapper put out his statement to ask for a $2 million match to aid in the region.

    I hate to be the "devils in the details guy", but what region is Kraft talking about?

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  • [–] 77 points 1 month ago

    From further down in the article:

    Pink wrote that she was not trying to get any artist fired or silence anyone but that she took issue with Macklemore’s putting “violent images” of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza up in a stadium filled with families, then telling Jews in the audience that “it wasn’t about them.”

    She's mad that Macklemore put up pictures of the shit that the Israeli military did? But she takes no issue with what the military itself did?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Kraft said in a statement shortly thereafter that Sheeran contacted him before Macklemore put out his statement to ask for a $2 million match to aid in the region.

    Yes. sure he did. What a coincidence that must've been, and it was for double the amount.

    “Ed now plans to reach out to other venue owners and our goal is to continue to work together to build bridges,” Kraft wrote.

    Yes, because that will fix it.. /s

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago

    If $1M was the entirety of his earnings for the Sheeran tour, Kraft should be matching with the entirety of his earnings for the same time period. It’s only fair.

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    The world would be a much better place if rich people competed in who can feed the most people in conflict zones more often.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    MS rachel already is matching his donation by giving 1mil of her own to palestine. and she called out celebrities to do the same, although she said "white celebs"

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I find it funny that on all these Ed and Macklemore posts there's exactly 1 downvote on all the comments.

    Somebody's salty. I can almost see their expression as they go through every comment downvoting with full on "I'll show them all" Nerd Rage coursing through their body.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    That one downvoter (I bet I know who it is but I don't want to prejudice at that racist fuck):

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    You can look it up elsewhere, but then the downvoter wins.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    I have no idea what anyome in this particular thread is talking about but now Im curiois. Please explain?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Hi, I'm wondering how many people would agree with this statement:

    "I am not antisemitic, I am anti-genocide, and these are two different things."

    Just trying to understand general sentiments.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I mean. Those are two different things. I don't know how someone could disagree with it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    That's my first thought but I know some people are very touchy on this topic. The challenge is to say something most people will agree with. It seems like some people pick a side between violence and non-violence, others pick a side between the people groups, some seem to make the two inseparable, and others make it separable.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Well, now you're getting into people parroting talking points back so they don't have to think about what you're saying. I wish you luck with that battle. I've had it many times. Using things people feel strongly about might help; like the Afghanistan "conflict". If someone is informed about the atrocities american's commited and are against it, that can be likened to Israel's treatment of Palestinians and might get them to think.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's looks like as long as you voice out against what Israel is doing in Gaza, you are branded an antisemite... That term has since lost its meaning.

    "Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer"

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    general sentiment: Gazans are currently paying the price for 80+ years of making the wrong political decisions and supporting terrorism.

    genocide claims are specious at best. Just like at the end of WW2, where a lot of German civilians had to die as a consequence of bad political decisions made back in the 1930's. Even if they didn't vote for Hitler, all had to pay the price collectively. In this world, sometimes, that's just the way it goes. Time to pay the piper. Chickens come home to roost and all of that.

    general sentiment: shout less slogans you heard on social media, and read a history book now and then.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    What constitutes a genocide? What is your personal definition of a genocide, and what makes you consider the actions that Israel is undertaking in Gaza not satisfy that definition?

    By the way, it's very nice to speak to someone who has read the history books, because I have, like, a bunch of questions.

    What poor political decision lead to the deir yassin massacre? Is there any particular political decision that caused settlers to burn entire cillages to the ground in the 40s? Who made that decision?

    And what poor political decision on the part of the Palestinians lead to the ethnic cleansing of 400k arabs in 1967?

    And what decision lead to the murder of 3000 palestinian refugees over the span of two nights in the refugee camps sabra and shatila?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    What poor political decision lead to

    Both sides walking away in 1947...

    Although time has demonstrated that it was a bigger mistake for the Palestinians than it was for the Jews.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Ok, I didn't expect much, but this is very little. When you said we should read the history books, which books did you mean? Did you read them? Have you read any Pappé? Have you read Morris' early work?

    And when you completely ignored my question about what your personal definition of genocide is, and how it leads you to deny the genocide in Gaza, was that because you don't have or know one? I feel like this is the more important of the questions I asked. Just like with your intellectual siblings, holocaust deniers, I expect you to either put up or shut up.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I do think corny is an appropriate word to describe him, but he has always seemed genuine and sweet as hell.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    How much have you listened to? If your exposure is through radio or other mainstream stream playlists, then you're probably hearing the same type of sample as you do Lady Gaga. The pop hits make money to fund the heartfelt art made with talent. There's a few dozen songs past Thrift Shop, And We Danced, and Downtown. Shit, check out the video to Glorious

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I became a fan around when Wings came out. Had Irish Celebration on my warmup playlist. Talked to him on a small Livestream he and Ryan did shortly before Heist released. Snuck into nearly the front row of a concert he did at a local uni. In like '13. Followed him pretty actively until he and Ryan parted ways. Never stopped liking him, but just fell to the wayside in my listening habits. Was Glorious the one where the video was him taking his grandma or someone out on the town for their birthday? That video was adorable.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Yes, Glorious was the one with his grandma. Clearly you have deeper exposure to him and Ryan so I'm now genuinely curious, what makes him corny? I was assuming his light/parody music, of which the corny sample is visibly represented in every thread on the topic. I don't follow his personal life at all outside a few prior social/political statements

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    When this whole drama broke like 1 or 2 days ago, reading the headlines, I was afraid I'd have to stop listening and supporting Macklemore. The headlines were vague. I'm so happy and artist I love is not a Zionist asshole

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    A lot more to give for macklemore versus billionaire kraft. He'll likely say he's going to match or exceed for optics. At least challenge kraft back at that point to tell him to share receipts publicly. He likely doesn't donate shit, or donates to a sham fund.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Doesn't Kraft donate enormous sums of money to Israel?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Very cool of him to do and standing behind his convictions.

    Also something I came across today from Two youtubers, Lindsay Ellis and Todd in the Shadows: https://store.dftba.com/products/tribute-to-ed-sheerans-bravery-fundraiser-t-shirt

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago*

    Seems like a nice chap that I can align with, definitely shouldn’t be kicked off Zionist sympathisers tours for being level headed

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago*

    Hey a reminder to check his music and get his numbers up

    he also has 3 songs specifically about shit like that:

    (so make sure they get more popular)

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    🇸🇩🇵🇸 Ya Free Falasteen Free Sudan 🇸🇩🇵🇸

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  • [+] -17 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    I've been iffy about this guy for a very long time, but I fully support what he's doing here with his support of Palestine and with challenging Kraft.

    For reference on my iffiness on this guy, he's always seemed a bit too calculated with his public facing social consciousness (rapping about white privilege, really?). But he also performed "Thrift Shop" while wearing this costume:

    Macklemore wearing a costume comprised of a curly black wig, beard and oversized hooked nose reminiscent of offensive anti-semitic caricatures

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  • [–] [S] 26 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Yeah this keeps being brought up now almost like it's a retaliation campaign, suspicious. He's apologized about this 12 years ago

    Macklemore issues apology following accusations of anti-semitism

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/20/macklemore-apology-accusations-anti-semitism

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  • I don't listen to his music, but I lived in Seattle at the time. I never knew about the apology, but I do remember quite a lot of people talking about the costume at work in the days that followed. AFAIK he's not done anything else anti-semitic, and I'm not trying to tear him down. Was just explaining part of why I've felt iffy about him. He can be iffy in my eyes and still be on the right side of history here

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    What's iffy about white people calling out other white people? Isn't that what we want more of?

    Also last time I checked, rapping was not an exclusive activity that only black people are allowed to participate in. In fact, in my admittedly anecdotal experience: black people are largely OK with whoever rapping, as long as they're not trying to mock rap or black people in the process. Don't do the art dirty and all are welcome, and all that

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    That's cute and all but I seriously doubt the monies are going to go where it's supposed to go. He would have been better off donating to homeless shelters.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Your comment is downvoted but it is correct. Palestinians cannot use anything these aid organizations receive because Israel blocks it all at the concentration camp gate. What is needed is political pressure and media pressure upon Israel.

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  • [+] -26 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    It would be more awesome if he went to live in Palesrine and shared his views on LGBTQ+

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    This is such a dumb fucking argument. I’ll never live in Palestine or most everywhere on planet earth. If some country decided to blow up entire cities in Indonesia I would be equally opposed.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    Yeah so it turns out that people that are constantly being bombed back to the stone age don't really have the bandwidth to develop progressive viewpoints. Queer Palestians die to Israeli bombs just the same as any other.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    queer Palestinians die to Palestinian machetes more though.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    That's some bullshit.

    Current estimates are at about 76,000 dead from Isreal's genocide, a third of which are children. There is not 76,000 dead queer Palestinians who've died at the hands of other Palestinians in the last 3 years.

    This is a braindead take that a 5 second Google search could solve.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    today class we're learning about population density and per capita.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Apparently not, because the population of Palestinians will always equal the population of Palestinians no matter what. You didn't think through this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I'm 100% positive that there are far less Palestinians right now then there were nine months ago.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Still went over your head.

    The amount of Palestinians that exist right now is the number of Palestinians that exists right now. The amount of Palestinians 9 months ago is equal to the number of Palestinians 9 months ago. You're failing to understand that the comparison here is death type not population capitas.

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