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[–] 71 points 1 month ago* (8 children)

If the economy crashes we are the ones who are gonna be fucked... I don't think I can afford a 5090 before or after.

I am fascinated that people think if only the economy crashes everything will be back to normal. No, we are all fucked. The billionaires have already fucked us all.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Just gotta wait for the strategic oil reserves to run out while diaperman keeps closing the strait, and it'll be a big ol' happy happy

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    While it is true that they are at their lowest levels in a long time, the reality is that between domestic production that we have available and the reserves, even if our usage continued to grow, we still have a few years worth before we would actually genuinely run out.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    if you have USD/other currency but not assets the economy crashing is good if you are a wageslave it's bad.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Not if the economy crashing causes increased inflation and interest rates, then you'd wish you had assets that hold value rather than currency which will lose its value.

    Although, given the numbers most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and don't have a wealth of assets or cash.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I'm sure all of the Zimbabweans hoarding some large denimination $1,000 stacks of cash under their bed were still doing great after the 12mil% hyperinflation caused the central bank to issue $100,000,000,000,000 notes.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Why give the company at the epicenter of the coming financial crash your money?

    This is like hoping for the sub-prime market to crash so that you can afford a Bear-Stearns home loan at a favourable interest rate.

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    [–] 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I'm not an economist but I don't think that's how that works.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    If the economy crashes, there's a chance the chip fabs go under, especially if they're holding the trillions in debt hot potato.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Eh, they're sitting on tons of cash. Nvidia, AMD and the AI companies may pass debt around, but TSMC is being paid money for their services. RAM and NAND companies, too, made record profits last year.

    They're expanding, but conservatively.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Do you really? This bugger is loud as fuck and eats the sun for breakfast, energy-wise. In hind sight, a 5080 would've done equally fine minus some fps.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    I don't need a 5090 though. My 2070 is still going alright, don't really see a reason to replace it right now.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    I will be shocked if computer parts, aren't, right now, the most affordable they are ever likely to be for the rest of your life.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    My pet conspiracy theory is they're trying to take compute power away from the proletariat so it can't be used against them in the coming AI wars.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I also believe they want to take our compute power BUT I think they just want to turn it subscription based (e.g. cloud gaming)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    They kinda missed the boat on that one. We passed the point of diminishing returns in graphics hardware years ago and now the only reason to get a high-end card is conspicuous consumption.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    Poor corporations, they were too slow ;-; /s

    If I understood correctly you’re saying that the hardware is not improving that fast, right? I had no idea that was the case

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    More that games already look good enough that the improvements from better hardware are getting harder and harder to notice.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    But from what I’ve heard (at least one year ago) modern games still have the latest hardware listed as recommended

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Game developers are following the same trendline as software developers - be lazy in your programming, chug unnecessary resources, and let the end user spend their way out of it.

    As an example, I think Clair Obscure is one of the best games I've played in years, but those unnecessary, egregious particle effects in EVERY single environment with NO ability to just turn them OFF are development malpractice.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Prices will fall once China builds enough capacity. So maybe around 2030.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    There's no guarantee those parts will be open - look at the locked down proprietary chips that come out of Chinese factories with binary blobs for drivers right now.

    Also, they'll be tariff'd to hell in some countries for what will be MOSTLY bogus security concerns.

    Also, China isn't stupid. They're not going to mark their hardware prices at where they used to be - they're going to put them EVER so slightly underneath the captive market prices AI companies are paying to the western manufacturers. So yes, they'll be a LITTLE cheaper, but "affordable" is never happening again, and the trendline will STILL go up.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I said nothing about them being open. A bunch of Chinese companies are starting to make RAM, so the demand will rise and prices will fall.

    Also, they'll be tariff'd to hell in some countries for what will be MOSTLY bogus security concerns.

    Yes, but it won't matter much. First, those RAMs will still be sold somewhere, reducing the global demand. Second, companies, including big ones, will push back against any such tariffs.

    They're not going to mark their hardware prices at where they used to be - they're going to put them EVER so slightly underneath the captive market prices AI companies are paying to the western manufacturers.

    Initially yes, but after a while another Chinese company will undercut the first, and then a third will undercut them, and so on. We'll have the same price wars that drove down the prices of EVs and smartphones.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    But millions of virtual waifus and half-hearted vibe-coded projects on GitHub will die!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Why? Are you cold? There are better ways to start a fire.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Dont worry, theyll get a bailout and youll be on the hook for everything. Privitize the gains, socialize the losses

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  • [+] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    My GTX 1060 has to hang on a little longer...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    You don't need this.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    i thought a 5090 was another version of 5150 but til

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I'm so happy I bought a 4090 and 64GB of RAM in 2023. This shit is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I’m out of the loop. What is a 5090?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I can't help but think someone who doesn't know what a 5090 is would be helped with the letters GPU.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I mean, they can now search "5090 GPU" instead of just a number and see themselves what a 5090 is, if someone managed to use lemmy, they can manage to use a search engine

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Tbf they could already just search 5090 and likely get relevant results, the number isn't that popular in other contexts. I opened a new private browsing session and the first two results for just "5090" were nvidia and a local electronics retailer (I used google, it gives you results by country by default)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Remember in post 2008 when things went back to how they were. Remember in 2019 when things went back to how they were. They take the margins and excess and you create personal debt. The boomer wealth shift isn't happening for you either.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    A bit misandrist but sure.

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