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[–] 92 points 1 month ago

What a crazy 24 hours to follow this. I have no interest in any of these artists but respect to all of them for standing up. I only wish everyone would go one step further and refuse to ever play at Krafts Gillette stadium going forward to really stick it to him.

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  • [–] 84 points 1 month ago (30 children)

    Kid Rock or Boy George might be able to open for Ed, lol

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  • [–] [S] 68 points 1 month ago (21 children)
  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (19 children)

    Kanye is too busy trying to exploit North into a music career

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

    how does that work? He's psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity.

    He always made the same slop, so I don't think he has a creative block, more of an organisational block, so why would trying to exploit his kid make him any more productive?

    EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output.

    So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    How does that work?

    Bipolar disorder. Not making excuses, but

    He's a psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity

    No. That's not how manic episodes work.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    updated :

    EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output.

    So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    his musical output is restrained by his insanity.

    insanity does not do that to music. trust me if you meet a musician that's right in the head they make boring music.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

    I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. Insanity is a universally detrimental thing to experience, it doesn’t impart any kind of gifts. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    We’re not all petty little broken crybabies

    your comments here notwithstanding?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Feel free to outline where I did that.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers!

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts.

    Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states.

    What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed?

    You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    updated :

    EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output.

    So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel, in the way edgy right-wing dudes are. Whether sufficiently staunchly to drop everything, fly to the US and open for Sheeran on his tour remains to be seen.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    WTF!
    There's a 35% chance I'm going to punch him in the face for this.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him.

    It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott.

    I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa.

    I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    the house band dropping is bigger than the openers dropping. dude just shat the bed and then rolled in it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yep, in reality “Ed Sheeran’s backup musicians” have a lot more to lose here than Sheeran himself does, and they’re doing the right thing. He should follow their lead.

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  • [–] 167 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's great to be on the right side of history.

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    HA! Fucking loser

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  • [–] 50 points 1 month ago

    Free Palestine. If those words cost me the stage, while turning the conversation back to Palestine, then it was the most successful tour I’ve been on.”

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  • [–] 111 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Macklemore is the better act anyway. Most people probably would have cleared out after he finished

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  • [–] 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I never saw Ed Sheeran but I saw Mac and can confirm he puts on a hell of a show.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    I never saw either.. But, I have a lot of interest seeing Macklemore.. I have NO interest seeing Ed Sheeran honestly.

    Macklemore probably "speaks" to more people too. I didn't like his music when I first heard it, but, it grew on me fast

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I saw him at the gorge around when he dropped Thrift Shop. I'd definitely see him again.

    I've never had the opportunity to see Ed Sheeran, largely because I've never sought out the opportunity to see Ed Sheeran.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Yeah, its like having Rammstein opening for your classic rock band.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I didn't actually give rammstein a proper chance until recently. Was connected to a customers system and they were blasting rammstein, which came to my computer. Actually didn't mind it. Added it to my library

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    My ex once took me to see some small band I can't even remember the name of because it turned out Robert Plant was the opening act. He was secretly opening so he could test out some new material he was working on (Saving Grace) without precolouring people's perceptions, but he was also Robert Plant so he blew the crowd away. I felt genuinely bad that a bunch of young twenty something's had been put in the position of having to follow up on one of the greatest singers of all time. I remember them being fine, I might have enjoyed them in another context, but the contrast in skill and experience was just insurmountable.

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    Oh, Ed. Ed, Ed, Edward, Eddington. What have you done, fool?

    Now if you play alone you'll be saying that genocide is ok, AND you've be knelt down to the billionaires.

    If you get another backing band/openers then you'll be saying genocide is ok, AND you'll be actively helping the billionaires.

    But if you now pull out of your own tour you'll be seen as you didn't want to pull out but were forced to by all the bad publicity about the genocide that you weren't bothered about in the first place.

    Oh, Ed, you've painted yourself into a corner, you dumb fucking cunt. All you had to do was have a little bit of spine, but that was just too much to ask of you.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Right? As soon as they threatened it he had all the leverage in the world. He would have all the positive press of saying he was being forced to cancel because of them, and showed solidarity with his fellow musicians. Could have even offered additional concerts in friendlier areas, promoting other cities and getting more dollars there.

    Instead he fucked himself. The only way to semi crawl back is to admit his mistake and stand in solidarity, that's the only move I see, and even then as you said he won't look strong but like a coward.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Those content with the genocide deserve the same fate as the ones committing it. Fuck you Ed Sheeran.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Didn’t the billionaire class step up and say they would cancel all the venues if Macklemore wasn’t dropped?

    Certainly has turned into a cluster fuck.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Ed should have called that bluff instead of giving in

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    God that feels good to read

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Kid Rock's available or the poop guy.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    including his "backup band"

    Hopefully this recenters Zionist rule over Americans problem for mid terms.

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  • Good. Fuck em

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    why is his expression always like this 😟

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    I'll do it! I can play the guitar. My wife doesn't like me playing at all. Neither does the neighbors cat. But I'll do it!

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    Robert Kraft is a Zionist POS.

    Ed is a ginger without a soul.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I wanna get it on the record that even most gingers are against genocide.

    Ed just sucks.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Reminder that Bob Kraft, a known friend of Epstien, paid to get his hog cranked by trafficked Asian women at a Florida rub ‘n tug joint.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    So... Ed Sheeran has been a zionist all this time? That's explain why he has been famous which such as shitty music. Is the most simple basic npc I have ever Heard.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I guess it wasn't just She that ran.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Good. Fuck him. Hope his career tanks.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago
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    [–] 24 points 1 month ago

    Fuck yeah! Grow a back bone, Ed.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ed almost certainly had signed contracts with these venues. If they cancelled him they almost certainly would have had to pay him for lost revenue. They signed him knowing Macklemore was opening and held a moment about Palestine in every show for the last year. It would have been an easy court win but Ed didn't want that smoke for his next go round. Absolute punk move.

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