Moscow would need to commit ‘honestly and on a long-term basis’ to ending the war before Kyiv would de-escalate. What we know on day 1,665

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[–] 59 points 1 month ago (22 children)

There is literally nothing Trump can do to stop Ukraine at this point. Since they refused to give them supplies Ukraine has had to build their own stuff and rely on other means to fight, at this point they don't really need anything from the USA to fight so they are free to do so.

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  • [+] -70 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    I mean, you can only kidnap people off the street to die on the frontline for so long until the country collapses completely.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    Yeah. Hopefully Russia collapses soon

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  • [+] -54 points 1 month ago (14 children)
  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    You must have misread, he said hopefully Russia collapses soon.

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  • [+] -32 points 1 month ago (11 children)
  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Out of pure curiosity, since both countries are conscripting soldiers: what would you expect Ukraine to do? Lay down and take it? Lose their country? What do you think your country would do if it were invaded by another country? Would your country fight back or would it lay down and take it?

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  • [+] -22 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    If the majority of my country wanted the war to end through negotiation and only 24% wanted to keep fighting, I would be fucking pissed if my country started kidnapping people off the street to die on the front line.

    https://sfg.media/en/a/ukrainians-want-end-war-gallup-poll/

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    Russia has shown it is not willing to negotiate in good faith, every "negotiation" has been for them to keep everything they wanted, stolen from the other country. Would you surrender to an invading country even if you knew it would end poorly? Your link right there just says that they want it to end. Of course they do. That is not what would happen if they give up fighting. They have tried the "agreement" thing before and it hasn't worked at any point. The overall lack of information in your post link pretty much makes you sound like a Russian shill. Just FYI

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  • [+] -20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    So fuck democracy when it comes to war?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    It's like you didn't read what I said. Your link does not say that the people of Ukraine are willing to surrender. You are reading into it what you, apparently, want to. Citizens in ever war want negotiations to win out. That's hugely different from voting to surrender.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Most Ukrainians don't want to keep fighting. Simple poll!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    No one wants to keep fighting except those controlling it. Really this comes down to Putin continuing to fight, though. He's the one person that can put a stop to everything, right now.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago

    Now do one about Russia. Maybe the one about tricking foreigners to fight for them? Conscripting tons of people from areas outside Moscow? How about the ones where they refuse to pay out benefits to surviving family members?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Did Ukraine lose the war yet?

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  • [–] 47 points 1 month ago

    How to properly deal with a bully.

    Keep it up!

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's kinda amusing. So Trump (the alleged badsss), goes to the VASTLY SMALLER COUNTRY being INVADED to beg them to stop beating the piss out of the VASTLY LARGER COUNTRY. Instead of.......oh I don't know, telling the bigger country to fuck off and give up.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    What’s funny is how Trump doesn’t have to tell either to fuck off. The smart person would just play sides and see who’s likely to come out on top, then create advantages in that space. You know AMERICA FIRST. Not Putin not Trump but the country jockeying for best position.

    Instead he just fucks up everything with zero no how, 100% selfishness and 10x asshole energy, all in proper Republican fashion.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago

    I wouldn't fucking stop either, it's working to get the world's attention.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Europe should be included in the peace talks with the US and Russia. Trump cannot be trusted to act in Ukraine's best interests.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago

    Generally speaking, doing what a felon rapist pedophile demands is not a wise move.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Russia “respects” ceasefires only as long as it suits them (until they regroup) anyway

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    hell yeah brother

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Hammer them harder to make a point.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This guy never says thankyou and it's just appalling.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hell yeah, drive up the price of oil until trump's self-centered pea brain understands that if he doesn't make a proper effort to end the war then it'll affect his political scam of a career.

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