New? Litrrally had this fear since I was a child and I'm 33 now. Almost everyone I've met feels the same.
Welcome to being in touch with reality
New? Litrrally had this fear since I was a child and I'm 33 now. Almost everyone I've met feels the same.
Welcome to being in touch with reality
I want:
To pay for this:
make it a crime to have wealth over $500M. Anything over that and the government gets to seize assets until total wealth is $50M.
I say we just give them a medal and say "you won capitalism!", give them a fancy card with a $5m a year stipend, and forbid them from ever touching money again
Let's make it a status symbol, the interest on the money we take from them will pay for the program and more. Hell, we can give them a point system for whatever they don't spend for cool prizes to compete with each other for
We need to change the incentives... Instead of letting their net worth act like a point total among their peers, we need to give them pro-social activities to compete through to keep them occupied
I wouldn't set it at $500M. I would set it at 1000x the median household income. Once you've hoarded enough wealth to last ten long lifetimes, we're cutting you off. This would be about $80M in today's money.
This is also roughly my best estimate for the largest possible "honest fortune," one that can be obtained through wage labor and investment. This is the kind of money a married pair of neurosurgeons could amass if they both worked long careers, never had kids, lived like monks, and invested everything. To get more money than this, you have to own a company, be an executive, or otherwise exploit the labor of others.
A pipe dream that will never happen 😮💨
I also like the tax wealth not work approach, but taxing earnings would be like taxing work, wouldn't it? With the wealth tax, if profit is re-invested, wouldn't the stock price go up, hence getting the owners closer to the wealth gap? (Asking from a place of ignorance)
They'd have to relinquish stocks or other assets if it put them over the limit.
Although in my opinion it would be better to tax loans using investments as collateral (that cross a cumulative yearly threshold) as realized gains and income.
The threshold could be a variable like 50x the annual take home pay of the bottom 20% of earners. That way for cheaper loans, people need to be paid more.
Edit: my variable would be about $1.6m right now.
I have always assumed i will never be able to retire. The American dream was never real and i worked retail with so many people in their 60's and 70's.
I am no better than anyone, i have no connections, so i will not be able to retire and will work until i die or just end up homeless. That's the American reality.
This is a reality for a lot of seniors already and will be for most millennials I feel. They're pulling the ladder up just enough to be out of reach.
I’m 45 and I’m already measuring my retirement in millimeters. 9 of them, specifically.
We all are. There's no hope. I talked to a guy today that retired 15 years ago and travels 6 months out of the year. The generational disparities are staggering.
IDK. Really depends on your precise path. My spouse and I are about 40 and, barring some truly collapse-type scenarios, our retirement is pretty much assured. We could make no other contribution and just let what we already have grow, and it would easily cover a very comfortable retirement at age 65. At this point further contributions are about moving that date forward.
We did it through being DINKS, both with engineering careers, general frugality, and getting on the property ladder pretty early. But it was a combination of luck, skill, hard work, good decision making, and luck.
Heh. You think death will free you from exploitation? We'll never be allowed to retire. Not even after we die.

And that's how you get sabotage, work place accidents, broken equipment, data breaches, intellectual theft, and well theft in general. Social Security is a double entendre; you know to keep grampa at home from fucking shit up.
I will probably die at work.
The idea is to shut down Social Security. A huge influx of desperate seniors increases competition for increasingly shitty jobs, enabling employers to grind their workers even more.
Weird, with all those technical advancements retirement age gets pushed back round the globe. This isnt just medical advancements. I'd argue medical care was better 20 years ago. Nowadays i pay hundreds a month for insurance just to get no doc available. Chatgpt does better care than a doc who isnt listening and just trying to sell me overpriced placebo.
Tipping point is now.
The problem is obviously struggling social security systems. In US it's worse because the corporations are taking bigger and bigger part of the profits while wages stagnated decades ago so people are not able to save for retirement and social security is not enough. In Europe retirement gets delayed but couple of years because people live longer and there are EU wide rules as to how much countries can spend on it. They could be rising taxes on the wealthiest people instead but those are the people that actually have power so... Still, in most of the EU you will still be able to retire. Social security is mostly well funded and stable. Here's some data:

source: https://www.robert-schuman.eu/en/retraite
So for example in Spain current estimates are that I will get 77% of my last salary when I retire. In most countries it's closer to 50%. So assuming you will own your home/apartment and you don't have to pay rent you should be fine but in some countries people may need some extra savings.
The problem is that capitalism has been funneling all productivity gains since the 1970's into the hands of the richest ~1%.
Social services are not struggling for any other reason than a parasite class of sociopathic and psychopathic criminals stealing from the majority.
Still, in most of the EU you will still be able to retire. Social security is mostly well funded and stable.
who will pay my pension 30+ years later? doesn't the system require more working people then than now?
No, most systems are designed in a way that everyone is taking out more or less what they paid in or at least are moving in that direction. Governments have to add some money but the amount they are adding should be stable over the next couple of decades. That's why some countries are raising the retirement age, it's so that the system doesn't collapse in the future.
New? I used a tool offered by my government to estimate my retirement age and it came out as 69. I'm 36 so I'm pretty sure that's a lower bound and it'll only go up as time goes by
If you can live off what you get. Granted I think they are a bit off not only because its not a new fear but anyone who knows older folks knows people go down at various ages and 50's is uncommon but not unheard of. So to me its the fear of working till you have no capcity to work and then living in poverty in a society thats only concerned with making sure you don't die.
I'm a rare example of this being a strange concept.
AMA
Did you make a shit tone of money by working for top evil corporation so you can retire early on your savings with no connection to financial markets?
No, I am borderline poor.
You plan on discovering a pirate treasure chest?
No, my life hack is I never needed very much food & I'm happy with living in squalor. I've been secretly practicing my taxidermy skills in preparation for the uprising. With a dash of salt, some needle & thread, styrofoam & trading skills; my goal is to build a monument to the greed of humanity & trade tickets for more taxidermy materials.
Sounds like some kind of plan, I guess!
My real plan is to provide an escape, be it from reality or the mundane ferocity of Internet.
I'll share some grilled crickets with you if we meet after the apocalypse.
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