Why not just put the solar panel next to the window so you don't have to cover it at all? The more light a panel absorbes, the more efficient it is, which is kind of the exact opposite type of thing that you would want to cover a window with if you still want it to be a window. I'm not even going to bother addressing the inefficiencies of harvesting indoor light, other than to say it's idiotic.
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I've been hearing about this for years. The fact that it never materialized is a sign that it probably doesn't make sense economically.
Boston’s logan airport has them in the newest terminal.
They work, but scatter light in a weird way and heat up the space dramatically. Granted that these are floor to ceiling 2 story windows, might have been hot either way, but can’t have reflective coating with solar.
Yes! Efficient window coatings are typically reflective or the light you don't want. This is the opposite.
Nice in the winter, I suppose.
Boston’s logan airport has them in the newest terminal.
Airports, famous for their efficiency and sensible economic policies.
Or because people want windows to let light into their homes?
Solar panels make sense on roofs, not windows
I’ve seen a large installation in person and they light plenty of light in, but aren’t quite clear so you can’t really enjoy the view out as you would with a normal window.
They would make good skylights in an office situation when you want natural light but don’t need to see out of them.
I sorta was thinking there are only so many windows in my place that we really look out for the view. talked to my wife and we agreed that we would be fine with a less than clear view for everything in our place outside of the balcony and the master bedroom.
I can see something like this as part of a system where we harvest energy from every possible surface if eventually becomes easy enough to produce and has a decent durability.
On some windows could make sense as permanent installations and on others they could be used as movable blinds.
indoor light
Oh man I can use my lightbulbs to generate electricity? Dude this is going to make a killing!
Fuck the years of the three laws of thermodynamics! Now is the time of the three laws of robotics!
That's like the most logical approach. I don't care if it only charges a phone or keeps a few led lights on... Please keep the heat out.
Stick a PV panel in the window. You could do it right now. I don't think its worth doing, but if you think this is a good idea there's nothing stopping you.
There's plenty of sensible efficient places we could stick more photovoltaics before its worth the resources chasing the tiny power output this is going to provide. Ultimately this is as silly an idea as solar freakin roadways for all the same reasons.
Can we please stop pouring money into stupid ideas? Solar windows make as much sense as a water-soluble condom. It's the kind of hair-brained shit I'd expect to see Elon touting. An invention that is the antithesis of its purpose, dreamed up and funded by some methed out moron surrounded by yes-men and brown-nosers who is so out of touch with the world that he doesn't understand the innate purpose of the object, nor the application of the technology
At least they're smarter than the solar roadways guy?
I think it all boils down to "hey boss, I patented this new technology!", "great, let's shove it down people's throats, pour a bunch of money into getting this hyped in popsci magazines and online tech spaces, we're gonna make hundreds of millions of dollars before anyone realizes what a dumb fucking idea this is."
This is the nature of popsci journalism for sure. Combined with the startup funding (/grift, often) hype cycle... Ugly
One time I had a PR person from my school suit down in my office with me. He really wanted to hype oeut research. I was a wet blanket - probably overly so as I'm actually people-pleaser plus under-promise over-deliver which was incompatible.
I ended up kinda struggling and seeing how disappointment, almost annoyance, all I could say was 'go talk to [my professor], he's much better at this'
I think you lack imagination. It all comes down to cost and convenience. Mounting something on the exterior is going to be a specialized process whereas getting new windows is relatively standardized. Then add to integration with the electrical system. Theoretically this could be like balcony solar. An electric plug under a window is not uncommon. So if the cost for a solar window is not that much more than a standard window to some degree. It would make sense. Its not a crazy thing to look into at all. Now granted might as well make the exterior frame collect solar as well if possible but again that might just end up being to expensive relative to surface area. Would be worth looking into though just like the window.
IT'S FACING THE WRONG WAY AND IT EITHER BLOCKS A LOT OF LIGHT WHICH MAKES IT A SHITTY WINDOW, OR IT DOESN'T, WHICH MAKES IT A SHITTY SOLAR PANEL. THE FUNCTION OF ONE APPLICATION IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE OTHER.
Caps because I can't think of another way to make it more obvious than it was in my previous comment.
Brosef, have you never been behind a tinted window? It's not unusual to want to block all the light, plus, you're not even seeing all the light.
E: intended to say "It's not unusual to want to block some of the light"
Soooooo how about: shutters
Already addressed.
I wonder why solar window shutters aren’t a thing.
Because the source of light is mostly up in the sky, and solar panels work best when they are mostly perpendicular to the direction the light is shining.
IMO solution is a 'european tilt and turn' window system with an inner window (tint or shade optional) and a solar panel shutter.
With drive motors and suntrackers for the luxury version.
Such a solarpunk vibe for everything inside to be tinged orange from your windows power generation. Absolute shame that this isn't really that useful just cool. No way a house with these would generate significant power
It wouldn't really need to generate "significant" power. At least, not in terms of whole-home power. Something like this could easily generate and store enough power for an auxiliary system, something like overnight lighting. Basically the same principle as those solar lawn lamps, but for inside. Wire 'em all to a battery and a bunch of lights and light/motion sensors throughout the home, and you've got automatic nightlights that work even when the power's out.
I have two sets of solar lights on my balcony that put out enough light to easily navigate by and it's one of the things in my place that was truly "set and forget". Having something passively collecting energy to use for later is nothing to sniff at
Yeah exactly, not increadibly useful nothing groundbreaking but a very cool toy
solar roadways would do that, but better!
Driving on solar panels seems bad for them.
but it's so cyberpunk and cool.
want to see the youtube video where the guy claims it's gonna produce billions of gigabytes of electricity for free?
Lol, gigabytes. I think autocorrect might have bit you.
"for free" excluding the insane installation fee (including the economic hit from having to close all those roads while they are being installed) and the insane maintenance costs of keeping the ground under cars clean enough for the panels to be efficient?
It makes far more sense to replace all of the farmland that we are currently growing corn for ethanol on, with solar panels. Not only would the farmers be making free money, we would also generate more electricity than America currently uses.
Imagine this 1W of energy at the cost of dead Congo teenager in mine that mined resources for this shit.❤️🔥❤️🔥
If the best counter argument for this is fictional, then i'm probably ok with it.
If you put enough of them in series you could power a lightbulb to shine on them.
Indoor light part of this is silly, yes.
E: the headline, and this sentence in the article "and, unlike traditional silicon-based solar panels, has potential to generate energy from indoor light as its composition can be adjusted to better absorb indoor light’s specific wavelengths." are doing the research no justice, which happens a lot. Are you keying in on that?
I was mostly making the infinite energy joke.
Assuming indoor lighting is modern, there shouldnt be much UV or IR to grab. So its taking visible light. will this grey out those frequencies/colors from the visual scene when looking thru as a window?
Absorbing frequencies of indoor light that indoor lights produce would up efficency of course, and you'd be capturing energy that would just become light polution.
But you would probably save money using reflective window cover and turning down the emitted power.
Im sure some applications would likely make sense tho.
I'm confused, are you still talking about the dead Congo teenagers?
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