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[–] 180 points 2 months ago (5 children)

We can fry shit with the air, so nice

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The first night I owned an air fryer, I tossed in some shitty frozen tater tots that had been in my freezer for way too long, and they came out so delightfully crispy that I cooked two more servings.

    I realized immediately that this would be a problem. It's a bit too easy to make delicious stuff that's pretty bad for me. I nearly made myself sick of wings within like 2 weeks. That was a close one. Fuckin love wings.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I got rid of my home deep fryer for health reasons. It is dangerously easy, cheap, and quick to make quality fries...

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    But it's also quick and cheap to make absurdly-delicious roasted veg.

    My favorite: take a bag of frozen broccoli florets, mist it with some oil (it'll harden on them), sprinkle with some salt and pepper and toss in it at 400 degrees F for like, 15 minutes. Halfway through I pull the basket and drain the accumulated water in the bottom to increase browning.

    Delicious, crispy, I can devour an entire pound of broccoli that way in like 5 minutes.

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  • [–] 125 points 2 months ago* (36 children)

    They're literally small convection ovens rebranded. They're not magic.

    Look up how microwaves work. Those are way, way fucking cooler. The way they generate the microwaves is cool as hell.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    They're closer to impingement ovens than convection ovens.

    Convection ovens (or "fan forced ovens" in some countries) use a fan to gently and evenly circulate the hot air, whereas impingement ovens and air fryers use higher pressure fans to blow the heat directly onto the food.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    So it's an overkill blowdrier, got it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Waaaaait. Does that mean I can dry my undies in it??

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If that's something you want, nobody can stop you.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Things don't need to be revolutionary to be life changing. Could I have used the convection oven for this one slice of pizza? Sure. Would I ever? Hell no.

    But yeah, microwaves really are neat. We're going to fling these electrons around in these very specific magnetic fields and out pops light you can't see.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Microwaves are a prime example that if something's cool doesn't mean it's good for it's job.

    Btw, the part of microwave that turns electricity into microwave is called magnetron. Freaking magnetron. I didn't know real inventions could have names as cool as that.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Microwaves are cool in theory but in practice the food is almost always soggy and mushy. Maybe I just don’t know how to use them, but I’m rarely happy with the result. Even reheating leftovers, I’d rather do in a saucepan

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    While I had to learn that Microwave ovens don't magically work on the resonant frequency of water molecules, they do work by inciting motion in dipole molecules, and water with those little H atoms hanging off to one side is dipolar, so microwaves are rather good at heating them up. This means that you're sort of working in the same realm of temperatures and humidity as steaming or even boiling, for good or (mostly) for ill.

    Heating frozen food specifically engineered to come out okay from a microwave? Well, it'll come out okay. Re-heating soup or re-steaming tamales (mmmmm. tamales....)? Pretty decent. Heating up anything that wasn't meant to have "wetness" as a major part of its mouthfeel will go poorly, often disastrously if you don't try to work around the microwave's limitations.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Microwaves are cool, sure, but they have a completely different utility. If I want a small amount of food hot, it goes in the microwave. If I want a small amount of food crispy, it goes in the air fryer. If I want a large amount of food hot or crispy it goes in the oven, with convection on or off depending on the end goal.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If you want crispy, heat with the air fryer.

    If want moist and hot, use a microwave.

    Don't cook soup in the air frier or toast in the microwave.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    you know what would be a lot cooler? same thing not needing electricity (concentrated solar can get hot enough and heat can be stored in hot oil)

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    But it wasn't sunny today and I wanted fries and don't have space to store hot oil :(

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    For a rain enjoyer, you sure like spreading pro sun propaganda

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Just power it using solar panels?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    concentrated solar heating gets you there using 1/4 of that space and allows for simple energy storage

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    "simple" storage of burning hot oil mmhm

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    yeah you put it in a barrel, pump hotter oil through coiled pipe, hot (storage) oil floats to top, when you draw heat through another coiled pipe cold oil falls to bottom. just put mineral wool around it. much cheaper than batteries

    solar water heaters work the same way except they use water

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    So now to cook something I need:

    • A solar collector
    • Hot oil storage
    • Heat exchanger (unless I'm deep frying I guess)
    • Hot oil piping between collector, storage and cooking appliance

    I'll take the solar panels which I already have wiring for, are useful when there's a surplus (because I can sell the electricity) and which also power my computer. Not that I have panels at the moment.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    You can store the heat in oil, but how do you transfer it into cooking oil? It's not like you can store it directly in cooking oil since it breaks down with heat.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Yeah it has to be stored in heat-reststant heat transfer oil, that one won't be edible. How to transfer that heat, like in every step before, using heat exchanger, like coiled pipe where that oil flows used as a hotplate or with air blown through it in air fryer

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    [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    The first commercial convention oven was released in the 1940s. The first prototype of the general concept happened in the 1910s.

    Even if you mean the modern household tabletop convenience version, the Nuwave convection oven was already an informercial staple by 2003.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago*

    When talking about air fryers, my husband once rightly pointed out that air fryers are just countertop convection ovens.

    I walked over to him, held my index finger up to his lips, and whispered to him, "shhh. Air fryer. AIR FRYER." 🤣

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yes. And I think it’s important to understand exactly what a convection oven actually is.

    At its most basic, it’s an oven with a heating element and a fan that circulates hot air around the cooking chamber. That’s it. The circulating air improves heat transfer and helps food cook and brown more evenly.

    Now, manufacturers have increasingly started calling a particular implementation of convection an “air fryer” and charging a premium for it, as though they’ve invented an entirely new cooking technology. They haven’t. Convection cooking has been around for decades.

    An air fryer is essentially a compact, highly optimized convection oven: hot air is circulated rapidly around the food, usually with a basket or perforated tray that allows that air to contact more of the food's surface.

    So when you’re shopping for a range and you see one advertised as having an “Air Fry” function, don’t automatically assume you’re getting some revolutionary new appliance. In many cases, you’re paying extra for a marketing term applied to a convection system that has existed for generations.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    To put it in perspective, that's just over 100 years out of 4.5 billion the earth has existed. Or 300 million years or so complex life existed (that mostly wouldn't be able to fathom the core concepts you'd need to know to even understand what having an air fryer means, where I'd consider "figured out that forest fires can contain more delicious food in some places (where intensity is high enough to cook plants and animals but not enough to turn them to charcoal)" to be pretty smart). Or several million that hominids have existed and using stone or better tools. Or several thousand since we figured out how to manage our food production rather than depend on always finding it. Or several hundred since we got much better at harnessing energy.

    Also, I'd push back on a) the invention date being more relevant than the mass release date, and b) early convection ovens counting as "air fryers", so that 100 years should probably also be reduced.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    affordable housing and healthcare

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Weren't we frying shit in the air with old cast iron stoves as well?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    What if I want to fry food with the fires of 7 Hells

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I hate that I ever, or will ever, eat food that didn't involve this. What is it?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    A wok burner. It's used a lot in Southeast Asia, and is specially associated to Cantonese cuisine.

    That being said, fried rice/noodles/veggies is universal, and you might be able to buy or set up something similar yourself.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I haven't used my oven at all since I got the air fryer.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    They are good for quick small batch stuff, but way less efficient than modern fan oven for anything bigger. Once you run for long enough to mitigate heating the ovens larger thermal mass, oven always wins.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Oven still gets the last laugh when you learn what air fryers are

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    And as he says in that video, air fryers are much better at making things crispy quickly

    Turns out you don't need such a huge amount of empty space for a lot of things and once you get rid of it, it works much better

    Though the name is still stupid. There's no frying going on

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    [–] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Wait until you find out about microwaves!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    As I understand microwaves, they are essentially powered by magical runes we trap inside.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Oh is that it? I always thought there was a little French guy that lived inside the compartment, and when you turn it on, it electrocuted him which caused his little tiny balls to boil inside and he screamed super loud but he was small enough that we couldn't hear it, and the supersonic screaming agitated the food into being hot on an atomic level.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Didn't not expect this post to turn into "how it's made" about air fryers.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    "I was born in the wrong generation" says person who just discovered The Beatles or Led Zeppelin

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    And with the results of climate change going on, you don't even need an airfryer anymore. Just a bucket of air will do the trick.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    why do people like air fryers more than toaster ovens? i don't get it

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Most toaster ovens, even ones with strong convection for "air frying", are not quite consistent enough in their heating. You have to pay far more than you would for an air fryer to get even heat coil distribution and a good door seal for that. The specific kind of rapid cooking that dessicates and browns the surface you get out of air fryer devices is just kind of hard to replicate outside of them.

    If you ever look inside an air fryer you can kind of immediately see why -- the heater-to-volume ratio is absurdly close. You have the equivalent of the biggest coiltop stove burner directly above a few quarts of air volume with a fan forcing air from it to circulate. It's just kind of unfair of a comparison for both toaster ovens and even full-size ones that advertise an "air fryer" mode by comparison for that reason.

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  • [+] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)
  • I got a ninja air fryer for 50 bucks because the old Philips one needed internal cleaning to stop it smoking

    I'm all for reducing waste, this was the first time I threw something out that technically was functional

    I didn't lose any sleep. And I fry free of smoke. Can recommend new stuff sometimes just because we don't live that long anyway

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I like it because it's easier and quicker to put a few chicken legs in the basket than to put them on a tray in the toaster oven.

    That and our toaster oven is too complex but our air fryer is two dials.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    But cleaning the basket vs cleaning a baking tray?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Meh. Strangely easy. Especially if you do it almost immediately instead of letting it bake on.

    Good point though, there are more nooks and crannies. If I put something juicy in there without a little foil tray, it'd get nasty. It's not a mesh basket in mine, it's a stamped metal bucket thingy with occasional holes. The foil doesn't mess with the cooking, afaik.

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I've never tried an air fryer. I don't have the counter space for one and am concerned I'd eat more unhealthly more often if I owned one but it's possible that's not true.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Nah we cook fish in ours.

    Losing weight is easier (less oil) and cooking times are faster.

    It’s just a more compressed oven. You can eat healthy or unhealthy with it

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Airfryers make me feel old because I don't know how to use one.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's just an oven optimised for airflow.

    Even fan-forced, a normal oven recirculates the same air around, which carries moisture evaporated from whatever you're cooking.

    Air Fryer is just a much smaller oven, with a similar sized element and a bigger fan, that also has an exhaust, so moisture-laden air is expelled from the unit and the air hitting the food is always hot and dry.

    But all-in-all it's just a type of oven and you can absolutely use one as a regular little oven or if you crack the door a little and turn the heat up a bit, you can use regular fan-forced oven as an 'air fryer'

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I used to hate air-fryers. “They still need some oil, it’s not really FRYING ANYTHING WITH THE AIR”.

    My parents got me one for Christmas and I didn’t show it, but I was livid. I do t need this shit.

    Then I realized it’s just a small oven. And now I love my small, really quick heating, slightly less easy to clean oven that can make passable fries.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    We're air frying the world too

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Yes but can you afford anything to fry with this air?

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