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[–] 124 points 2 months ago* (36 children)

They're literally small convection ovens rebranded. They're not magic.

Look up how microwaves work. Those are way, way fucking cooler. The way they generate the microwaves is cool as hell.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    They're closer to impingement ovens than convection ovens.

    Convection ovens (or "fan forced ovens" in some countries) use a fan to gently and evenly circulate the hot air, whereas impingement ovens and air fryers use higher pressure fans to blow the heat directly onto the food.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    So it's an overkill blowdrier, got it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Waaaaait. Does that mean I can dry my undies in it??

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If that's something you want, nobody can stop you.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Things don't need to be revolutionary to be life changing. Could I have used the convection oven for this one slice of pizza? Sure. Would I ever? Hell no.

    But yeah, microwaves really are neat. We're going to fling these electrons around in these very specific magnetic fields and out pops light you can't see.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Microwaves are a prime example that if something's cool doesn't mean it's good for it's job.

    Btw, the part of microwave that turns electricity into microwave is called magnetron. Freaking magnetron. I didn't know real inventions could have names as cool as that.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Microwaves are cool in theory but in practice the food is almost always soggy and mushy. Maybe I just don’t know how to use them, but I’m rarely happy with the result. Even reheating leftovers, I’d rather do in a saucepan

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    While I had to learn that Microwave ovens don't magically work on the resonant frequency of water molecules, they do work by inciting motion in dipole molecules, and water with those little H atoms hanging off to one side is dipolar, so microwaves are rather good at heating them up. This means that you're sort of working in the same realm of temperatures and humidity as steaming or even boiling, for good or (mostly) for ill.

    Heating frozen food specifically engineered to come out okay from a microwave? Well, it'll come out okay. Re-heating soup or re-steaming tamales (mmmmm. tamales....)? Pretty decent. Heating up anything that wasn't meant to have "wetness" as a major part of its mouthfeel will go poorly, often disastrously if you don't try to work around the microwave's limitations.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Microwaves are cool, sure, but they have a completely different utility. If I want a small amount of food hot, it goes in the microwave. If I want a small amount of food crispy, it goes in the air fryer. If I want a large amount of food hot or crispy it goes in the oven, with convection on or off depending on the end goal.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If you want crispy, heat with the air fryer.

    If want moist and hot, use a microwave.

    Don't cook soup in the air frier or toast in the microwave.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    you know what would be a lot cooler? same thing not needing electricity (concentrated solar can get hot enough and heat can be stored in hot oil)

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    But it wasn't sunny today and I wanted fries and don't have space to store hot oil :(

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    For a rain enjoyer, you sure like spreading pro sun propaganda

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Just power it using solar panels?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    concentrated solar heating gets you there using 1/4 of that space and allows for simple energy storage

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    "simple" storage of burning hot oil mmhm

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    yeah you put it in a barrel, pump hotter oil through coiled pipe, hot (storage) oil floats to top, when you draw heat through another coiled pipe cold oil falls to bottom. just put mineral wool around it. much cheaper than batteries

    solar water heaters work the same way except they use water

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    So now to cook something I need:

    • A solar collector
    • Hot oil storage
    • Heat exchanger (unless I'm deep frying I guess)
    • Hot oil piping between collector, storage and cooking appliance

    I'll take the solar panels which I already have wiring for, are useful when there's a surplus (because I can sell the electricity) and which also power my computer. Not that I have panels at the moment.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    You can store the heat in oil, but how do you transfer it into cooking oil? It's not like you can store it directly in cooking oil since it breaks down with heat.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Yeah it has to be stored in heat-reststant heat transfer oil, that one won't be edible. How to transfer that heat, like in every step before, using heat exchanger, like coiled pipe where that oil flows used as a hotplate or with air blown through it in air fryer

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