MapQuest stood up to President Donald Trump, and now its app is reaping the rewards.

The “OG of online mapping,” as the company calls itself, announced on Thursday that it would not change the name of Lake Ontario on its maps to Lake America, despite Trump’s executive order directing the U.S. Department of the Interior to update the lake’s name in the U.S. geographic naming service. As a result, MapQuest’s mobile app downloads soared, sending the iOS app to the No. 4 position on the U.S. App Store’s Top Charts for apps (not including games) as of Monday morning on the U.S. east coast.

MapQuest also reached the No. 8 position overall in the U.S. App Store across both apps and games, and it became the No. 1 Navigation app in the United States.

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[–] 184 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (22 children)

Great! Hope people more move away from Google Maps. OSM would be even better, but MapQuest is a good step away from the Monopoly of Google.

Edit: Just realized that in Google Maps the acronym for the Great Lakes is no longer “HOMES” but could now be known as “SHAME”.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    If you've got a favorite replacement for the Google Maps mobile app, this would be a great place to tell people about it. I believe the world of Open Street Map (OSM) is likely to be a little intimidating, a little daunting, for the masses, so an easy starting point might be especially helpful.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

    Copy-pasting my own comment:

    For using OSM on Android (edit: and iOS):

    • I use OsmAnd, which is free on F-Droid. It's very feature-rich, and I can customize it pretty much exactly how I like. There's a good tutorial for beginners here.
    • However, some people prefer the simplicity of the app CoMaps, which is available for Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux (Flathub). It's a fork of Organic Maps that arose over disagreements with Organic's governance (see: open letter).
    • There are also specialty apps like Alpi Maps for more specialized uses of OSM (in Alpi Maps' case, hiking).

    For contributing to OSM on Android:

    • I use Vespucci for more complex edits on Android, so things like adding features. (The rough iOS equivalent is Go Map!!.)
    • I use StreetComplete for a more trimmed-down, gamified experience. It isn't a power user experience like Vespucci, but it's often really useful if you're just on the go and want to make small but meaningful contributions.

    The easiest way I've found to contribute local information is the iD editor on desktop; it's the one that pops up if you click 'Edit' on OpenStreetMap.org. It strikes a good balance between user-friendliness and power user stuff. For full-on power users, JOSM is a good option. And the easiest way to contribute in a limited way is StreetComplete, which will ask you questions about existing features (like "does this traffic signal have a walk button for pedestrians?")


    The OpenStreetMap Wiki is a great general resource for using and contributing.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Another benefit for casual users is that StreetComplete doesn't require you to worry about the details of formatting your submissions, it simply asks you if this thing is here, or what are the hours of this business, or if there is a sidewalk or what is the address number on this building and things like that, then it submits a correctly formatted response to the OSM database.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Those are great choices for navigation. What options are there for map/location based business search?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think I understand the question. OsmAnd and CoMaps are both meant to show businesses, and how much information those businesses have is, for most cases, dependent upon what's in the underlying OSM database, not what OsmAnd or CoMaps are able to show.

    On OsmAnd, for example, I'm able to go to Configure Map > POI Overlay and select whatever type of POI I'm looking for. In CoMaps (mobile), I can select the magnifying glass and then go to Categories.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Use CoMaps. It's a privacy-first app that pulls their map data from OpenStreetMaps. If something is inaccurate on the map, you can edit it on OSM and it'll populate to most map services. I've made changes and seen it pop up on Google Maps too.

    I downloaded CoMaps from F-Droid (https://f-droid.org/), just to avoid the Google Play Store. Slowly de-Googling my life...

    I don't know if there is an iOS version. Apple is the OG evil company, long before Google got rid of their "Don't Be Evil" motto, so I avoid their products. Now I'm trying to get off Android stuff too, but there aren't many alternatives right now.

    EDIT: Someone else linked a website for CoMaps and it does have an iOS app. Also an Apple and Linux desktop program. No Windows though.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Mapquest lets you have a Rainbow Unicorn icon. Sorry OSM, MapQuest wins.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I just checked and OSM had the lake listed as Lake Ontario, so that app is good to go as well.

    Tested CoMaps and Mapy but they don't seem to have names of lakes and other bodies of water?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I was about to pivot to CoMaps but then saw this mapquest thing taking off.....

    One way or another, Google is out. GrapheneOS is in this week.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    GrapheneOS is in this week

    I really, really want to get there, just need to get with the program and find a good, late-model Pixel on the used market.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    You need nothing special. Was running on a 7 until I broke it, now on 8a. Zero issues. I buy mine used on eBay. They are all the same candy bar anymore. Does .2150 extra sq inches of screen really matter?

    I used to buy the top shelf phones. Went to pixel a-types and gave never felt like I am missing anything.

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  • [–] 88 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (30 children)

    OpenStreetMap also has it as Lake Ontario:

    They also have navigation called OSMAnd.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Here in the You Knighted States of Murica, we ain’t gon use no OSAMA maps app

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's actually more interesting than this. Open Street Map has a long history of supporting multiple names for the same place. There seems to have been a bit of an edit war since the executive order was issued, but as of now we have <tag k="name" v="Lake Ontario"/> and <tag k="official_name:en-US" v="Lake America"/>. There are also 36 other name tags, mostly listing the name of the lake in different languages. I initially assumed that all those others were added in the last couple of days as a way to sort of protest by taking the whole thing to an absurd level. But the change log actually shows that 27 of them were already in the tags long before the executive order was issued. And honestly, I like it this way better. Instead of making Trumps announcement big to the point of absurdity, OSM has made it small to the point of inconsequence. Trump said he wanted to change the name of the lake, and OSM said "sure, whatever, your name for it can be number 28 on the list of names that people have for it. And actually, while we're on the topic, it looks like we missed a few. Lets throw on 8 more to make sure everyone is represented."

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    But I'd argue comaps is better

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Haven't tried it, but it's based on OpenStreetMap, so I guess it also calls it Lake Ontario.
    Why is comaps better?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Completely free and open source, simpler UI for anyone to get into imo

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I thought OSMAND was Open Source too.
    I never paid anything for using it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    In my experience OsmAnd is way better than Comaps.

    In OsmAnd I can type in a business name or an address and not only will it bring up the correct address but it will allow me to navigate. I can do neither in Comaps. Also OsmAnd has CarPlay/Android Auto support with the paid version.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I haven't tried comaps, so maybe it has similar features, but the OsmAnd profiles and plugins are great. Driving, hiking, biking, walking, basically any form of transportation can be used and with plugins and overlays show info pertinent to each method while excluding extraneous info.

    And if you get it from fdroid or compile it yourself(?) it's the pro version with more features for free.

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    Is OsmAnd legit? It's not from OSM directly from what I recall

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Worst product name ever.

    Also, crappy app too. I appreciate that they are trying, but it has been crap for years.

    Tried it again a few months ago. The spoken navigation wounded like it just huffed a can of butane. Real low, slow and fucked up sounding.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    TIL MapQuest is still around.

    Years ago, I had one of those standalone GPS mappers that used it for its database. It always gave you the option to choose between shortest time and shortest distance. Generally, I went with the former, but this one time we were heading home and not in any special hurry, so I said let's try shortest distance just for kicks.

    Next thing you know, we're on a hunting trail in the Adirondacks in a Geo Metro that was definitely NOT rated for it and my wife was absolutely freaking out while the kids were getting tossed around in the back. Good times.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Google maps does that as well. I was at Grand Teton and heading to my next camp site. 56 miles, 2.5 hours. That seems a bit low on speed. Checked closer, and yep it wanted me to take my van on a pretty rough logging road. I rerouted through Jackson WY.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Google Maps is notoriously bad with cycle routes. It has sent us over sand paths where you can't cycle at all, when better routes are available. In cities, OSM also gives better routes.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I took a folding bike on a visit to Toronto and used GM in cycling mode. I guess it wasn't too bad in the downtown area? But then I forgot to set it back to driving mode on the way home and it picked a rather whimsical route for a car. I thought it was just trying to stay off highways to avoid the notorious Toronto rush hour at first, but eventually, it wanted me drive through the woods on a "trail" that was barely discernible as such.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I used it back in high school (2001ish) to give a friend's mom directions to someone's house. It could have taken a back country road with like 2 turns and be there in 6 minutes, but it instead took it to the nearest major road completely out of the way for a trip twice as long.

    It was still on its infancy

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I think everyone who is of a certain age has one of those "I tried shortest distance on the GPS" stories. Mine is driving to my brother's apartment in San Francisco. I generally knew the way, but there was a road closure that detoured me to an unfamiliar street, so I pulled out my phone and put in his address, and it gave me the option of shortest time or shortest distance.

    Figuring it was probably about the same regardless of which one I picked, I selected shortest distance.

    The resulting 30 minute detour took me on some of the hilliest residential neighborhoods in the city. I was navigating these nearly 30 degree inclines in my poor 4 cylinder Toyota Previa. That was a lesson I only had to learn once. Shortest is not faster and will not necessarily save you any gas and you may go on an adventure you didn't intend.

    Nowadays I don't even see the option, it always defaults to shortest time accounting for traffic and such, although I assume it's probably buried somewhere in the settings menu.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Now that you mention it, I have family in the Bay Area and had an incident with them too!

    I was visiting and had a small econobox rental (I forget the exact model). I said hey, we should take this thing up to someplace with a lot of giant redwoods. I've never seen huge trees! And so I looked around on the map and saw a Big Basin Redwoods State Park that sounded promising.

    The first leg turned out just great. But after touring the park, it was still early afternoon and I thought maybe we can go to Santa Cruz and have dinner before swinging back? The GPS at that point said I basically needed to backtrack down the same road for a ways, but that sounded boring. I was a tourist. I wanted to see new sights! So I had it choose an alternate route down China Grade Road. I still remember that name. Omg. It was a logging road with aggressive dips and switchbacks with huge drops if you missed one.

    As a bit of a epilogue, a couple of years later, I was reading "The Never Game" by Jeffery Deaver, and at one point, the protagonist is hunting for someone at Big Basin. After not finding them, he decides to check along a nearby logging road. Hey I've been there man! Don't do it!!

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Canada should rename Lake Superior to Lake Obama, “because Obama is Superior”.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Resistance at even the smallest level matters.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Yep, this orange motherfucker shouldn't be able to do anything without going through court to force it to happen, and even then ignore it until someone shows up to MAKE you do it. Use his own bullshit against him.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Mapquest still exists? Encarta it!

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  • [+] 97 points 2 months ago (22 children)
  • [–] 135 points 2 months ago (18 children)
    • restarted war with Iran
    • food safety is plummeting in the US
    • citizens and immigrants are being locked up and deported, mostly for being the wrong skin color
    • AI bubble is getting closer to popping and wiping out literally all of your savings
    • everything from soda to aircraft set to go up in price after Trump fucks with aluminum supply from Canada
    • Jared Kushner is strategizing with Democratic leadership
    • the FCC will start going after news reporters who run stories that make Trump look bad even when they’re objectively true
    • still no Epstein files (or arrests)
    • flock cameras still gaining momentum
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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    For that final one, there was a post earlier about how Flock lost contracts only for city councils to replace them with a different surveillance provider.

    It'd be better to divorce Flock from the real issue: i.e. "Neighborhood surveillance is pushing forward".

    We can't let rat-bastards who would sell out their towns and cities pretend the grievance is just against Flock and not against all of the surveillance.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    They lost them to Axon, which at least currently do not aggregate the data between districts. So still bad, but less bad

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    AI bubble is getting closer to popping

    i knew AI was a bubble but i hadn’t heard the other part. what’s happened besides the end of “tokenmaxxing”?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago*

    Nvidia feels the need to further escalate the cricular financing, vastly increasing its own exposure when the bubble bursts. That would be incredibly stupid for them to do unless they think they have to do it, to keep the market from imploding on itself. This kind of financial engineering should be illegal, but it isn't.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    In addition to the other comment about Nvidia's circular financing, token prices are sliding as competition is increasing, while datacenter construction and operating costs are only going up. Companies are running low on money to the point where even the megacaps like facebook and google are issuing new shares for the first time in over a decade. These are companies which have collectively dumped trillions of dollars into share buybacks and held a trillion in cash on hand by the time AI came around.

    Once the venture capital money is spent but the bills still keep coming, one bad earnings report will confirm what everyone is expecting. People will lose faith of the future growth that these valuations are built on, which will crater the stock prices and wipe out at least 20% of the S&P500 at a minimum.

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  • the FCC will start going after news reporters who run stories that make Trump look bad even when they’re objectively true

    I haven't seen anything specific about this, just that dozing diaper dementia donny the daughter diddler goes off on toddler-like tantrums anytime anyone isn't stroking his ego...

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago (6 children)
  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Too expensive unless you can predict exactly when the bubble is going to burst.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The market can remain irrational longer then you can remain solvent

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    I am an anti-capitalist and I think about investing in the stock market similarly to how religious people view gambling (e.g. not just sinful in an abstract sense, but an actively terrible financial idea in the short term, too).

    Ever notice how there are like… regular market collapses? And the only people making a lot of money are very obviously doing insider trading?

    Anyone who has ever invested in the stock market has already lost more money than I ever will.

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