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[–] 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Captain! That monk deflected my phaser blast with his sword.

Kirk: Set phaser to wide dispersion. Fire!

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Captain, he did a spinny thing and it somehow blocked the wide beam even though that makes no logical sense!

    Kirk: Fiendish, we're dealing with the worst kind of opponent... fantasy bullshit

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    IMO, Kirk's plot offense is stronger than a Jedi's plot defense.

    Spock: "I scanned their weapons with my tricorder and adjusted my communicator to remotely disable their plasma sword."

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Captain, one of their directors decided he wanted a completely out of character scene at the beginning of his movie and now they can literally hold energy mid-air as an afterthought.

    Never underestimate the amount you can get away with fantasy bullshit.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Sword Art Online had lightsabers and called them photon swords, in the second season. Main character goes to a gun game and buys a sword. It’s a lightsaber. He wants to call it that but they won’t let him. Almost a fourth wall break.

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    [–] 29 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Inaccurate.

    Physics dictates it would deflect the phaser beam to the nearest redshirt.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    what happens if a stormtrooper fires the phaser?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    It depends on who they're shooting at.

    In the first movie, they were extremely accurate except when shooting at Han, Luke and Laia.

    Those three escaped the Death Star, and the tacker on the Millennium Falcon led the Empire directly to Yarvin 4.

    The next appearance of the Stormtroopers had them be Flanderized to the point where literal rocks were their Achilles heel.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago* (16 children)

    Imagine being a laser beam but after traveling for 1.5m you've simply had enough. Oddly relatable.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    um ackshully it's a high-energy plasma loop contained within a force field

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Why is it called a lightsaber then?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Because it's not a heavysaber maybe? (Ok, I've got nothing.)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Anakin Skywalker: You're a Jedi Knight, aren't you?
    Qui-Gon Jinn: What makes you think that?
    Anakin Skywalker: I saw your laser sword. Only Jedi carry that kind of weapon.

    Is Anakin--the very Space Jesus himself--an idiot, then?

    Uh... don't answer that.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    It's actually canon that it's common for laymen in the SW universe to call them laser swords.

    Anakin was an enslaved kid from a backwater planet, and as such probably only heard stories and rumors about the Jedi from travelers.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    Um ackshully it depends on the crystal and power source, Mace Windu’s purple lightsaber is explained as being an electric arc IIRC. (IRL Samuel L Jackson just wanted to be able to see himself in the wide shots apparently.)

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    1- why would a starfleet crew shoot jedi?

    2: why would the jedi not simply do hat jedi have been seen to do in nearly every movie and not block the shots?

    C, why would they have had a conflict in the first place? Neither groups are hostile.

    I love trek and star wars and this would never happen.

    That said, the presence of a red light saber and blue together indicate it was a sith, since a jedi wouldn't willingly use a corrupted crystal in their saber. Maybe it was Grievous.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)
    1. laser swords are cool but they dont make sense. Imagine throwing a rock at a jedi. The rock gets burned, maybe split but the jedi is still hit. It sucks at deflecting anything that is not bundled light, super slow oh and buckshots. Source: i played the episode one game from 1999.
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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Video games aren't true to lore, as you need video game mechanics that won't work in-lore. S

    In said games, you also can slash droids many times and they won't slice in half. You can slash the viewport looking out into space and not have to worry about decompression.

    And besides, none of that matters since as the crewman stated, "I vaporized with my phaser" which is not something that would "split" and still hit whoever is holding the saber.

    And if you threw a rock, the jedi would use force abilities, not his lightsaber.

    And trying to argue one group's weapons are nonsensical when the other group literally invented the term "treknobabble" to justify anything with complex sounding words is hilarious.

    To be clear: I am not in any way upset about the meme, it's funny, and I like franchise vs franchise stuff. Warhammer vs star trek would be awesome. Golden age of humanity might be able to stand against starfleet, but certainly not the Imperium as it is in M41.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    The lore is that slugs and shot are super problematic for Jedi though. Not so much a Trek issue, but IRL Jedi would get merked by stuff like shotguns or rifles.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Scattershot, yes, but I don't remember single-shot kinetic weapons being an issue. Logically the worst would be splattering it instead of vaporizing it, which then just kind of makes it scattershot. Of course, molten metal splashing across your body at high velocity isn't nothing.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Modern firearms have an extremely high rate of fire and travel fast as hell. It wouldn't be deflecting a bullet, it would be deflecting dozens or more bullets effectively all at once (never mind if there was more than one shooter).

    I forget what their energy weapons travel at, but I recall it being a fraction of the speed of even your basic M4 (never mind something like a sniper rifle or anti materiel rifle).

    Even a shotgun slugs would be a big problem once they hit the lightsaber: They'd probably explode and pepper them with semi-melted lead spall traveling around 1,500-3,000 feet per second.

    Seems like it would actually be more of a liability than just taking cover, retreating, or maybe using the force to either escape or deflect them.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    because phasers are rays and not bolts, would a phaser beam bounce off of it like a laser pointer in a mirror? and then the ewoks, effortlessly able to limbo under the beam, soundly defeat both the jedi and starfleet

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    Phasers work in whichever way the plot demands. Of course the same goes for anything in star wars, sometimes even in the same movie trilogy being different.

    Romukan plasma weapons would be terrifying, I'm imagining a plasma bolt just splashing around the light saber and covering the jedi with plasma. Basically the same as a flamethrower in star wars lore.

    Ewoks are eldritch horrors that don't even need to dodge or limbo. For every one that gets struck down, 100 more are scrambling over every surface, swinging on every vine, and hang-gliding in to club everything to death.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Phaser swords!

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    It's the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    So uncivilized…

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    What did you call me?

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