Read an article a bit ago. Take away: Millennials drink the most but largely kicked the nicotine thing. Gen Z have brought back nicotine in a big way, even causing a resurgence in chewing tobacco. Its all just homosapiens coping, so I say pick your poison and keep doing your best.
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This is all part of the puritanical shift that’s happening in some Gen Z circles, this post can’t be talking about millennials. I saw an article a few months ago that stated millennials were the drunkest generation and that while Gen Z as a whole drink less there has been a strong uptick in their consumption recently. Can’t imagine why they might have started drinking more, well besides you know the everything happening in the world
If weed is legal drinking goes down.
I wonder if it’s people living in weed “dry” states that are the current outliers.
Well here in the Netherlands it was Covid that did in the student drinking culture and apparently it just never bounced back.
This is exactly it. South Carolina is full of sloppy alcoholics and the alcohol lobby spends a lot of money to keep it that way. They'll be the last in the country to legalize.
That's absolutely part of it. Here in Wisconsin the Tavern League has outsized influence and we still don't have legal weed and we lead the country in drinking. Although I've been seeing more and more of those THC drinks. I'm not sure what kind of loophole those slip through, but they seem popular.
Weed drinks and gummies, largely. I can pick them up at woodmans in the liquor section, though come November I may need to stock up
Damn y'all don't even have medical, always thought you guys would follow us here in Michigan relatively quickly as our states have very similar politics but I didn't think about big beer lobbying.
Is there a line of dispensaries on the border in illinois then like we have here for all the ohio and indiana people coming to buy weed?
We're surrounded by legal states too. We buy their weed and they buy our fireworks.
Yeah, at least there’s one set up in South Beloit. It’s more expensive than Michigan though and has a much stricter limit on what you can buy as a non resident. We went that route before, but the grey area stuff I can get at the grocery store is much more convenient. I’d do Michigan but it’s a bit farther of a drive than Illinois. Maybe I’ll grab stuff next time I head to pictured rocks
Why don’t we have it? Wisconsin got gerrymandered to hell for a decade. The Supreme Court is now left leaning and is breaking the gerrymander, so hopefully we can get legalization of some sort soon
They're derived from hemp, which became federally legal a few years back. It's the same chemical (d9-THC) that's found in cannabis indica and sativa, but it's present in such low quantities in hemp that it takes wayyyyyy more plant matter to extract enough.
You'd think it would be the active ingredient that is regulated, not the actual plant.
It is! THC is the regulated chemical. delta-9 is a different molecule which was made federally legal as a result of allowing hemp farming
If delta-9 is a different molecule but still an active ingredient, then not all the active ingredients are regulated. And these "thc" drinks are lying.
It's possible they've only recently started earning enough to be able to afford booze.
A chunk of them still aren't old enough to buy alcohol. Of course the stats will go up as they become old enough to buy it.
In this economy?
Moonshine is about to make a glorious comeback
Lol I remember that being a thing with millennials 10 years ago
I never understood why
But then I remembered millenials (and I am one who probably leaned toward a hipster when I was young) love old timey weird stuff
drives away on his penny farthing
I would doubt that fact about millennials without a source to back it up. It just doesn’t track with experience, but I could definitely be wrong.
Gen Z is lost to the manosphere and homesteading. Those are used to push right wing puritanical propaganda. I really hope they snap out of it.
...homesteading?
It's basically living off grid, eating what you raise. It mainly draws in women by pushing traditional gender roles propaganda.
used to drink alot when i had no future prospects.
Acting a fool in public today means high chance someone records a video of you at your worst.
I'm honestly so concerned by the amount of energy drinks zoomers drink, plus the vaping. They're less into downers, but fuck me they love those stimulants.
The vaping is depressing because it feels like all the gains made by anti-smoking have been eroded with more people smoking than ever before.
I personally don't mind vaping, since many smokers switched to vaping and people who vape don't emit a passive aura of stench.
I've binned off both but personally it's the cigarettes I miss, especially straights. Vaping just tastes cloying as fuck to me now, it's so strongly flavoured if you're vaping a lot you become totally nose-blind to it.
Thing is, the vaping is so much worse for heavy metals, so were going to have to dedicate a huge amount of resources treating people for that since it is actually so unchecked
I personally don't care whether vaping is worse for the person doing it than smoking. The thing I do care about is that vaping affects other people much less than smoking does.
Right, but how are you measuring that? Vaping is far less addressed than tobacco cigarettes are and whatever health effects there may be could be broad enough in the coming decades to stress healthcare systems, and it has facilitated an entire industry of disposable coils and batteries used to power the things, which then just get chucked wherever. It's maybe less harmful in terms of second hand smoke, though I haven't read any study to confirm that, but that isn't the only way harm is caused.
No it's not. The articles on that study severely misrepresented the results. Everything was under OSHA levels, significantly lower than what's in cigarettes, and a few were lower than atmospheric levels.
The formaldehyde study and the glycerin break down study had methodologies so far outside of regular usage that they were designed to produce harmful products.
The popcorn lung scare was full of shit too. Diacetyl and acetyl proponol were only used in tiny amounts in recipes that needed a buttery flavor. Despite the levels being orders of magnitude higher in cigarettes, and the only recorded cases being industrial workers and a guy with a microwave popcorn huffing fetish, the industry dropped it.
The EVALI bullshit was black market THC carts cut with Vitamin E acetate.
The amount of false propaganda against vaping is staggering. It was cutting into tobacco tax revenue, so the FDA killed the industry that was focused on harm reduction.
At least with Vaping there's no second hand smoke iirc, so while it's still bad for you it doesn't damage the people around you too thus it's more of a personal choice
Ngl I have a problem with energy drinks.... been trying to ditch them in favour of coffee
I was a heavy coffee drinker until they found my heart defect.
Now I have no caffeine, doctor's orders, for 22 ish years now.
Sometimes I'll sneak a sip of coffee if I have a migraine, it helps. But God help me I won't sleep that night.
You don't realize how much of a tolerance to and a dependence on caffeine that you build up, until you're off of it for awhile, and try some again.
It really has a powerful effect on you, even if you don't realize it right now.
If I drank an energy drink right now, after being dry for so long, my heart would definitely race and I doubt I'd sleep for two days.
I don't miss caffeine though, honestly. I don't wake up tired anymore, I just, wake up. And drink some water 🤷♂️ then go to work, feeling fine. Not amazingly energized, but not dragging either.. Just.. Normal 🤷♂️
Caffeine is a drug like anything else. If you can get off the stuff for awhile, say 6 months? I bet you'll be amazed at how you feel, and you won't go back.
The difference is incredible! I am not and never was a caffeine addict. I just drink from time to time and I enjoy the taste. But that "from time to time" is like once in 3 months. Or at least when I need energy and my sleep was short that night.
The difference is insane! It keeps me glued and moving the whole day. I come off work and I do things non stop. I can't shut up. It doesn't let me fall asleep quicker than usual (10-15min). It feels that it is a some sort of an enhancement drug.
I hope I will never require it most of the days so I won't build tolerance. And I do not want to get addicted to energy drinks. If coffee is a mild enhancement drug, energy drink is a straight up poison mixed with cocaine.
I have ADHD and dont take the meds and im pretty sure without caffeine id just fall apart.
Also ADHD here, but perhaps a different blend? At any rate, I function 🤷♂️
Is there a reason you don't take the meds, like cost or something?
If not, you should definitely prioritize the meds, you're going to build up a resilience to Caffeine faster and it's like, so bad for you. I get it though, weed and caffeine are super common and effective forms of self-medication fot ADHD.
I can only get generic concerta on the NHS which does NOT work at all, sideeffects are not worth the impact it has. If I want to be in a medicated state I generally just obtain high quality speed paste and dose it at a theraputic level.
Jesus christ, and I thought Canadian healthcare was a shit show. From what I understand, lisdexafetamine (Vyanse) should also be covered by the NHS, though I'm not sure about what the requirements for generic brands are there. It's much, much easier on you than something like concerts.
Love a pint, personally. Drinking with friends trumps most other activities. Currently on my way to see The Prodigy with some old friends I'm meeting in Edinburgh. Looking forward to the pubs and merry laughs as much as the gig, in fact more so.
That's something I applaud the younger generations for. I'm just hoping that it's not due to not socializing in person.
From what I've seen in the UK, it's not that the youth particularly see temperance as a virtue it's more than unless you're going to a Spoons pints are £6 if not more these days. Ket is big in Britain too, on account of it being cheap especially compared to pints. They don't want to be filmed while hammered and immortalised on tiktok either.
I feel it's a common problem that economic factors are often attributed to moral ones.
You know what else we also didn't poison ourselves with at anywhere NEARLY as high a level as boomers did? Lead.
Now we just consume lead trough plant based protein supplements
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/16/nx-s1-5576294/protein-powder-lead-consumer-reports
But that's mostly because the US supplements industry is an unregulated disaster.
"trough"? That's a new one to add to this thing:
English is a tough language. It can be mastered through thorough thought though, while you sit next to a trough.
That is still a very worrying sentence when the only safe level is 0
Safe level is zero but there's a gradient of severity
of course. I'm alluding to the fact that while theres been a significant improvement, we still in many places consume worrying amounts of lead.
originally i wanted to write that we didn't have lead exposure, but ...
Flint Michigan. and that's actually not even the worst municipal water system by far. That's merely the one that got a little more publicity than most.
It's nice that we don't have fumes from leaded gasoline, generally speaking--that it's no longer the standard and most household sector products that use fuel don't take leaded gasoline.
Laughs in British.
By the time Americans are trying alcohol for the first time, some of us are straight up alcoholics and have been trying to quit for several years.
Yeah, we're going to let you have this one
Denmark that has been topping the drinking charts among 15-16 year olds almost every year this century:

Weird flex.
You can recover by telling us we're dumb for building houses out of wood, or calling us fat.
Well yes, there are several other policies and mannerisms of yours besides the 21-year-old MLDA that are quite frankly inscrutable to me.
Americans don't even build houses out of wood anymore, we build houses out of plastic and sawdust.
Is our wooden house situation old-hat now? It seems like the problem is just going to get worse as time goes on
Nah dude we should be building heavy stone houses despite one of our coasts being highly prone to earthquakes, the entire middle of our country prone to tornadoes and only a small section of the east coast being suitable for heavy stone houses! We should be willing to be crushed to death in an earthquake or take a fat rock to the head during a tornado so they can’t talk about this anymore!!
Some on the continent have been legally drinking since 16, and illegally since earlier than that
It's not hard to get liquor as a teen in the US and it's underground. I was drinking too vomiting just about every weekend throughout highschool. I doubt that's going on as much with a 5% lager in a pub, and I don't see clubs tolerating it that much.
I'd be interested in seeing numbers on which produce more alcoholics. Coming from the latter, the former would have been much safer and better overall🤷♂️.
I would say a majority of Americans drink long before they turn 21. I have friends who experienced exactly what you're talking about
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