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[–] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Fuck. I was loosing hope with the carney government for a minute.

Let’s hope we do indeed push back harder. Fuck Trump and little band of raping oligarchs.

I’ll take the hardships in Canada if it means that piece of shit falls even harder in the midterms.

To any Americans reading this: get out and vote. Spread the word and vote. Get all your peers, families, and friends to vote.

Stop this nonsense. He’s done so much harm to the American reputation already.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    This feeling I find is misguided. People do not think he is “acting tough” just because he is not all over social media spewing bullshit like little pp. He is acting like an adult. It’s trade talks, this should be behind closed doors until it’s done. This is how it should be, we should not be stooping to the orange turds level.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know how much credit I'm willing to give Carney just yet, I think a lot has to go to the premiers like Kinew who have been standing up to the US.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Yes. I would tend to agree with your statement but I don’t think the premiers have much to do overall either those trade negotiations going on at the top level. I’m sure the negotiators take their wants into consideration.

    Kinew however is my idol for Canada at this point.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Let’s go. Yes it will be painful but it’s a view on long term strength. Cant wait to see the new last minute terms they introduced to kill this deal. It will prove all along what has been said: that they are unreliable place to do business.

    What part of their unregulated food industry did we just avoid? How much free access to our water did they demand? How many military bases did they want on Canadian soil? How many seats on committees did they demand?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    We are lucky the americans so helpfully showed their lack of good faith before it was signed instead of the following Tuesday.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago*

    I also was totally expecting a handshake deal followed by renegging on the terms a couple days later.

    But it seems instead, the Trump admin's negotiation strategy is the Craiglist "I know I said OK to $40 but I'm already here and I only have $25 cash on me" gambit.

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    [–] 58 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm happy the PM has decided to put up a fight. I'll back him on that as long as it holds.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    These scumbags try to fuck us over last minute and then blame us for backing out

    What assholes

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Very on brand for republicans/conservatives

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  • [+] -11 points 2 months ago

    Republicans are not Conservative. Conservative, like liberal, has a fairly well defined set of beliefs, values, etc. Republicans are just a political party and a very bad one.

    You should make distinction between these things, because chances are you have some beliefs or values that are in fact, Conservative.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 months ago

    I'm so glad we don't have the spineless pp right now.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    However, last-minute changes in the U.S. proposed terms were unfair, uneconomic, and called into question the reliability of any deal.

    The Art of Scuppering the Deal

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago*

    I dealt with somebody like that before. I had an old Honda in amazing shape, but occasionally it refused to start and bringing it to the dealer found nothing and they would start it finem. But I had a family and another car so it was time to get rid of it. I put it up for sale as is and $200. Some guy gave me $50 deposit, then later wanted to only pay $150 total. I took both front seats out and told him he could come get it for $150 or have his deposit back. He came and towed it. $200 was a steal of a deal and he tried to be a dick.

    I donated the seats to the local auto-wrecker, so the guy searching around would find them and them probably pay $50 per seat.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    I only regret that I have no more US products and services left to divest from.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Time to buy some more Bombardier I see.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    It's a good thing I'm not the one negotiating. I'd have an uncontrollable urge to scream about how Trump needs to be arrested

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago
    [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Great, so now both USians and Canadians will pay more. I'm striving to not buy anything this this stupid shit is over. Guess I'll go live in a barrel.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    As a Canadian I'm not happy it went down this way. I realize this will hurt and prices will rise, cost of living will rise. I'm not one for a knee jerk emotional reaction and be one to turn sudden blame on our leaders, I know the architects in america have designed these trade negotiations to divide and conquer.

    What isn't for sale is our identity, pride and self respect. This will be our lives going forward and that feels bad sure, makes me angry. I trust our current government, party be damned, have our interests being put forth first.

    This is our life now folks. We're just going to have to deal. What you gonna do? "Vote for the other guy"? doing so doesn't remove the oligarchs down south.

    'scuse me while I go the LC to try another Canadian booz 🤣 numb the ill feeling towards turnip turd. 🍻

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    I may not like everything he does but still feel like Carney's one of the best prime ministers we've had.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Agreed, if it wasn't for his fossil fuel thirst, he'd be a near perfect Prime Minister.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I don’t mind if he supports the oil and gas status quo, but only on the condition that he uses it as leverage to build a stronger renewables and EV sector.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If you actually believe that you are very naive. What EV sector. We make one shitty muscle car EV no one is buying.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    We don't have to build EVs here to work in the EV sector, but we have reserves for many of the chemicals required to make batteries, and could also have plants to build batteries, which the world needs a lot of right now, and is actually a resource we could sell without setting the world on fire.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    If there's a long game that we might like here, one thing for certain is that we will see zero sign of it until after the treason referendum has happened, and failed. So expect no joy from this PM until November at the earliest.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Carney also supported America's and Israel's war on Iran, so he's not exactly a genius.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Enough of this zero sum bullshit. He has never materially supported the war.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago*

    Right, right. He's just providing political cover for bombing hundreds of schools and some of the world's greenest steel plants, for a fascist pedophile that is constantly attacking Canada and calling him "Governor".

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    This is going to go swell for us down here.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    This is probably the best outcome we could've hoped for as Canadians. It's far from an ideal situation, but at least we kept a shred of dignity in the end. I'm personally extremely disappointed in Carney for taking these negotiations as seriously as he has been, when it's obvious to everyone else the US is simply not interested in a mutually beneficial relationship. They only seek to exploit us and our resources for the sake of their own egos, like some kinda colonial playground bully.

    The only worthwhile response is to give them nothing, and point and laugh as they hurt themselves trying to do something about it.

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    As much as I hate to admit it, Canada really need to be able to refine our own resources. We have all this energy, but in order for us to use it, we need to shunt it down to those gross ass yanks and then re-import it.

    We need capacity to do this ourselves to supply our own people with our own power. Same with mills and other needs that we as a nation require.

    We can’t even have nuclear plants without those fucking shit stains that enrich it as we don’t have capacity to do that.

    We are falling short of maintaining our lives as free Canadians constantly being shackled to those yanks and I fucking hate it.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    No deal is better than a bad deal. 🍁True North Strong and Free 🍁

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I thought that our tariff response would be delayed until mid-september?

    I think in the future when Trump announces tariffs we should be announcing counter-tariffs that will come into effect that same time, not waiting it out to see if he actually implements his before deciding. One side may have an advantage of speedier turn-around on implementing such things, which hopefully our people are working to mitigate as much as possible.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Very well said!

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    The use of code block markdowns in lieu of quotation’s is mildly bothersome. They each have their intended purposes, but why use them incorrectly?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    Our government understood, before many, that America is altering all its trade relationships. Putting tariffs on its closest allies and charging for access to its vast market.

    I'm not sure how vast American markets will be as we become more and more impoverished with each generation, but go off king.

    In recent weeks, we made important progress toward improving Canada’s position as having the best deal in the world with the U.S. However, that progress has not been enough to meet our objectives for Canadians. As a result, this evening, I have decided to suspend trade negotiations with the U.S. and have directed Canada’s negotiators to return to Ottawa. They have worked hard, in good faith, to defend the interests of Canadians throughout these negotiations up until the very last minute. However, last-minute changes in the U.S. proposed terms were unfair, uneconomic, and called into question the reliability of any deal.

    No cap. Go on.

    At midnight tonight, the U.S. intends to impose a 50% tariff on roughly $28 billion of Canadian goods. Canada will match those tariffs dollar for dollar to protect our workers and businesses. In the coming days, the government will introduce additional measures to support Canadian workers and businesses, building on the nearly $25 billion in support provided over the past 18 months.

    Canada! FUCK YEAH. Coming again to save the motherfucking day yeah! As an American, it gives me hope to see other countries refusing to play ball with Trump. I'm happy for you Canada.

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