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[–] 165 points 2 months ago* (12 children)

Saved you a click: It was the underlying mpeg-related patents used by the DivX codec. Filed by Siemens AG.

I remember back in the day that this was why everyone preferred xvid instead.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Is it somehow important for Linux?

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  • [–] 71 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    No.

    It has never been a "legal headache", more of a bit of additional work for distro maintainers (to keep codecs separate from the rest of the distro) and a tiny inconvenience for users (they had to click an additional button after installing the distro).

    Nowadays it's almost entirely irrelevant. Unless you are in a tiny minority of users who need to play DivX-encoded video (a codec which is 25 years old at this point) for some reason, you don't need to care at all.

    Basically, this just made life of a few media horder nerds a tiny bit more convenient. Frankly i shouldn't be typing out a comment this long to even explain it...

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The one button in the installer you are remembering is actually unrelated. It's the gahnome people taking worst from winblows as usual and sticking with it after the last benefits die.

    This time it's the video codec system (instead of just using ffmpeg lul), they called it "gstreamer". If you try to install ALL gstreamer plugins, it will be some two digit gibibyte number (don't remember exactly). The button in the installer installs most popular plugins.

    Now, applications that try to use it will do anything but tell you what you are missing. Segfault, "whoopsie daisy unknown error", just hang around and so on and so forth. Chances are, it's not in dependencies either, recommended or required. One would think the ffmpeg plugin in the base set can do anything, but as it turns out it can't. For some reason.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    It has never been a “legal headache”, more of a bit of additional work for distro maintainers (to keep codecs separate from the rest of the distro) and a tiny inconvenience for users (they had to click an additional button after installing the distro).

    Was that ever? Whenever someone whined about codecs back in the day, I would just install mpv or vlc (which were and are in most official distro repos I know of) and call it a day.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Not for linux itself, no, but for desktos distros it makes it hard to keep it fully open source and free of proprietary stuff.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Ohh siemens ag are the baddies? I just bought their stock. I wouldnt have, had I known about this.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    As a general rule, somebody is going to patent every aspect of these formats. They haven't been demanding licensing fees from open projects, so they aren't being baddies. The fact that they could kept a lot of projects from including direct support.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Such a weird writing format just to work around the ads. Just awful.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Wait, you don't use an adblocker?!?!?!?!?!

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Is that possible on iOS on safari? I’m using piefed on the mobile browser. I guess I could just do Firefox but changing the default doesn’t mean everything goes to Firefox on iOS.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    So sometime in the future while setting up your Raspberry Pi to run Ubuntu desktop to run your media to the projector you can ditch the

    sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras

    Sudo apt install ffmpeg

    That's the last place I've seen it and it was a bad idea anyway as the Pi's decoder sucked ass for certain media.

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  • 3 comments in c/linux@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    for some reason I was certain xvid was done ages ago and was hoping this is h264

    oh well

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    that's divx. xvid is h263, or mpeg-4 part 2. it's all a bit muddled but xvid was started by divx as an open platform, it's gplv2 but it uses a bunch of patented code.

    like everything in the video world, it's needlessly convoluted and bogged down by red tape.

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  • 3 comments in c/hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se view that post
    [–] 58 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Saving your click: it was a DivX patent.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    Thank you. I'm so tired of this clickbait bullshit and wish users here wouldn't just play along with it. We can share information without playing into the shitty metrics games of corpos.

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