Funnily, I don't see that trope much anymore

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[–] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If that is the premise we can definitely exclude Xavier.

He may be chaotic and freaky and loooove stabbing people in the back and eating them. But i bet hes also earnest, loyal to his friends and dedicated to their cause.

My bets are on the noble cause i don’t like the rich.

The only reason a noble would leave the safety of their royal home and go on a super dangerous quests would be for clout and prestige. Hiding behind your teammates isn’t brave though… being the only survivor though..

That concludes my in depth psychoanalysis of these single use meme characters.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago
    • Eric is found dead leading everyone to believe Xavier killed him.
    • So they tie up Xavier until they can figure out what to do with him.
    • The next morning Xavier is found with head smashed in.
    • Audience is led to believe only Brock has the strength to smash his head in.
    • Brock jumps off a cliff. Turns out he was being manipulated by Mary the Betrayer the whole time.
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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    100% its Eric. He is noble so he will see everyone else as beneath him by default.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago*

    obviously not smh, Eric will be constantly hinted to be hiding something but in the end it'll turn out that he's actually one of the less miserable nobles and that Brock is the villain which no one suspects because no one remembers he exists.

    Mary is just happy to be there.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    It’s Eric the noble, 100%.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It’s Mary. 100%. Everyone’s looking at Xavier should be ashamed of themselves for their physical, racial, and cultural insensitivity.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    Either the Noble or the Pure. The Cannibal backstabber is a secret hero.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Two possibilities:

    • Xavier is a cannibal but since he's clearly a different race than the others, he isn't interested in eating them.

    • Xavier is the Cannibal Backstabber, so he will help by stabbing the cannibal who is about to betray the others.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    It's not Xavier! Instead it's his evel twin!

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    [–] 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And it ends up being the noble just to pull a “Gotcha!” for subversion’s sake.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    The obvious answer would be either Eric or Mary, let's be real. I've read way too many of these kind of stories.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Is there one where Mary secretly worships an evil god and trying to sacrifice the party, Eric is a noble and wants to lead the upstart lowborns to their doom, Brock was a child when Eric's king and Mary's religion destroyed all he knew, etc, everyone secretly plotting against the entire party?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Each one having their own agenda is rare. There was one I read about everyone betraying the MC because he was a lowly human then each went to do their stuff but he MC because such an overpowered trope character that I dropped it by chapter 70ish. Something about unlimited Garcha 9999 or whatever.

    The extremely common trope is that the whole party conspires against the MC, which then turns into a revenge story. Then sometimes they still are assholes, other times they are sorry... But yeah.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh i read it too lmao, i decided to continue to read it to see how much worse it would get, the MC is just so fucking overpowered and at some point they manage to get hold of some fucking country and bullshit, the world building is decent tho and not totally unrealistic that everyone looks down on humans

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Ha no, I held out until they were going under earth with some dwarves or some bullshit. My tolerance for crap is very high lol.

    The discrimination thing is believable, what's not believable is how people act when someone clearly incredibly powerfull shows up, just because of the race. I get racism, but he freaking obliterated so much stuff, it's crazy the disrespect he still gets.

    It's the classic trope of the author not knowing how to evolve a story and recycling the same plot several times. When they finally evolved the story with the dwarves thing, it became extremely boring which shows that the author doesn't know how to actually write a story outside of tropes, that's why I dropped it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    how people act when someone clearly incredibly powerfull shows up,

    Exactly, "oh you are a human! You must be weak as fu-" start flexing it's power "ah- you must be clearly cheating or sum" YOU ARE ABOUT TO DIE, STFU AND RUN

    Anyway, yeah i dropped it too

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  • [–] 53 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Well it can't be Xavier, he spends all his time backstabbing cannibals

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    My bet is on the noble, the more wealthier the more rotten.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is why I dislike even knowing the simple fact that there is some twist in the show I am going to watch. Even knowing that there is a twist is somewhat of a spoiler, and you are left guessing what it might be the entire time you are watching it.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Definitely Mary. After Miquella the Kind, it becomes obvious.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Consistently the cannibal backstabber turns out to be kind and just an ex social outcast while the noble actually cuts deals with the bbeg

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Last year I watched LotR for the first time (yesyes) and I was shocked that

    Spoilerthe wizard with the spikey black tower that looks like a torture dildo in the middle of a lush forest was one of the baddies!

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    Eric the Noble spent thousands of gold on his image, otherwise he begged Jeffrey the Noble (later Jeffrey the Child Rapist) to let him on his island, excommunicated his trans daughter, and bought up public square "Twitter" to control it. Xavier just likes to backstab cannibals.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Eric the Noble. Does Griffith ring a bell??

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Reminds me of that 'So You Want To Be A Superhero ' show by Stan Lee. There was a person that was a plant to betray the rest of the heroes. His name was Rotiart. Traitor backwards. It worked though because it was just the first episode and I didn't notice till afterwards.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Some of Shu Takumi’s games did a good job of building up foil characters; they seem just suspicious enough to convince viewers they’re the twist villain. But as it turns out, all their goals are noble.

    AAInvestigations 2 had perhaps the best one though. Very little attention on the actions of the mastermind, but the few things they do stand out so it feels like you should’ve known, rather than feeling like a Butler Did It.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Probably Brock, he looks suspicious

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    my money is on Mary.

    there's something about her...

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Old time sci-fi adventure show Blake's 7 did the ultimate twist

    spoiler
    ___They killed Blake but kept the name, because he'd become so famous.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Of course it's either the noble or mary... or both

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    They will get introduced for 3 minutes in the beginning as a side-character, never get mentioned again to the point you forget them, and then backstab the main cast 3 minutes before the end.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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    Can you guess which one is the evil dark magician that hides their actions in a veil of darkness, murders children and is inspired by someone who revived a world destroying demon to get revenge on his father because he left them because god gave him power to protect the planet from that demon, but required him to leave his family (he agreed, influenced by the fact that his wife was also killed by that demon)

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