i used to scoff at people who eat foods that are marketed as tasting like meat. i've since let pragmatism win out. if it helps you reduce your meat consumption, that's really all that matters.

how does the community feel about these products? any brands to avoid, or try?

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[–] 10 points 2 months ago

If it tastes good I really don't care especially if the price is better and its nutritious.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    For me, the substitutes helped me getting started with vegan foods, since i was able to still make familiar dishes. That gave me the confidence to try more and more things which are fully vegan to begin with. It's hard to change your diet instantly to completely different foods in one swoop, and it hightens the chance that you shock your guts and feel bad doing it. Which gets people to bounce off a vegan diet. So they are great for that. But even when I mostly eat self cooked stuff today, sometimes I still buy me a pair of beyond patties or something like that.

    So they definitely have a place, especially for people who change their diet later in life. I also have a friend who lived vegetarian and later vegan their whole life. And they doesn't like the substitutes that much.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Why does consensus matter? Eat what you like as long as it’s ethical

    Though keep in mind ethical is not always clear. Impossible meat tastes the way it does because of soy leghemoglobin. The funders of the research into this wanted it to market asap so to do this impossible did a lot of animal testing to more rapidly receive fda approval (which still happened suspiciously fast)

    That said at this point no animals are involved. To avoid it because of a personal sense of ethics would logically also imply a lot of headaches in your life about medical treatments and medications (not even touching on gelcaps and gelatin based wound dressings, ugh)

    Also fwiw impossible and several other companies like oatly are trying to shift the consensus away from being seen as “vegan”, instead trying to be seen as a healthier option or whatever. In the case of impossible the ceo has basically said that being seen as vegan food is actively detrimental to sales, but he’s also a gross fratbro capitalist

    And while impossible tastes “meatier” because of soy leghemoglobin isolated soy protein is doing the heavy lifting tbh. Beyond is basically the same without the proprietary leghemoglobin, instead using more plant based stuff like beet juice and pea protein (actually soy free). Stuff like Chunk is newer and based on culturing and fermenting soy to give a more steak like texture and taste (though chunk is Israeli which brings up a whole different ethical issue)

    That all aside if you really like bolognese and decide to make some with beyond meat and daiya parm you’re still saving an animal so nice, why not

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Boss!

    RIP to the KFC plabt based sandwich and Poulet Rouge's veggie chicken strips.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Is there a consensus? I find that the texture and flavor varies greatly between brands and types of substitutes. My advice is: You do you. If you like a particular substitute, eat it. If not, don’t.

    Keep an eye on the sodium levels since a lot of “meatless” products are full of salt. Also be aware that “plant based” on the label doesn’t always mean egg-free or dairy-free. Quorn nuggets are made with egg whites for example.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Not vegan but working on reducing meat intake.

    All fake meats I've tried are ultraprocessed disappointments. Things like bean burger (mimics shape but not flavour) are generally good. Would rather cock just vegetarian recipes.

    YMMV

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That's it. Once you avoid meat for a while, the greasy texture is disgusting, you don't want fake meat. None of that processed fake meat is healthy to eat.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Why do people with your preferences sometimes seem to assume everybody has the same preferences?

    You don't know what I want and maybe something that grosses you out I like.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    That's fair, though it's also possible that they've already taste-tested many or most products over time and found what was stated was overall the (personal) outcome. Sometimes people post things to try to save others the expensive journey of trying it all, but we all have different taste buds and one can always fill their boots.

    I personally found some vegetarian (even though I'm not vegetarian) cookbooks quite helpful, as I'm not a fan of the pre-prepared stuff for the same reasons, the processed additives didn’t taste good. That's just my experience tho.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    It is a common comment though, with people that have remoed meat from their diet for a time period.

    The longer I haven't had meat the more the smell and grease gross me out. Like when a person not quite understanding vegetarian or vegan diet slips in refried beens with lard... just horrible.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    "Would rather cock just vegetarian recipes." 📸🧐

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I consider myself fluent in English. I've lived for years abroad, I work for an American company where most do not speak my native language. I can understand all the double meanings and word plays in movies.

    And for some fucking reason I still mix up cook and cock.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Each to their own on this. My mrs hates fake meat as it often tastes too meaty, but I love a plant based kebab or a THIS chicken and gravy sandwich

    Ultraprocessed absolutely. But then so are lots of sauces and desserts nonvegans eat without making the point thats used against plantbased meat

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