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[–] 2 points 2 months ago

@tgcoldrockn Fascinating

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Are the cameras at 59th street actually Flock cameras (or similar), accessible by NYPD or just for congestion pricing and toll collection? In deflock, they all look like they're part of DOT but i'm not sure if NYPD has access. For most of northern Manhattan, it seems to be pretty standard for DOT to operate all the cameras, including all of Harlem.

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    [–] 25 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    For us non-Americans, can someone provide some info about that blue blob on the bottom left, where it looks like there's a camera every 2m?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    Hells Kitchen? Also the Javits center is near there so high traffic.

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  • [–] 113 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    the deflock map has made it really easy to find out where the white people live.

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  • [–] 113 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Rich people. Admittedly, there is an overlap

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  • [–] 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Sometimes the rich people want them. There's one Flock camera at the entrance of a nearby rich neighborhood aimed into it to catch cars entering or exiting. All the others in the county are next to county property or along roads with high traffic.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    My area used to have a Flock camera pointing down a short dead end road. I wondered who lived on that road that it needed its own alpr but then one day the camera was turned to face the arterial.

    Thankfully my city got rid of Flock.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Lot of rich white neighborhoods. Not a lot of places where over 1/3 of the population is Jewish.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    And? It's not just white privilege. There are a lot of more expensive and whiter neighborhoods in Manhattan. It would be more interesting to find out how they managed to keep Flock out so others could emulate it.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    You tell the chief of police where you like walking your 10-year-old sex slave and they'll remove the cameras for you.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    The average income and home prices seem really low.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Hard to say what they mean by just "income". Things like Per Capita Income just divide an area's total income by its total population, meaning non-working adults, retirees, and kids with zero earnings are factored into the average.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    I checked a few rich areas around me and they've got about the same amount. I think for many of them, it's to protect their riches rather than to preserve their privacy from the government. After all, they own both major parties so what is there to fear?

    Now if only we really were hunting down and executing the rich - bet they'd be more eager to not get tracked. But... I won't hold out hope.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    Big deal. Cameras along the perimeter can basically log whenever they come and go. The rich and privileged need to know all those other cameras need to go if they really want a modicum of privacy back.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    In their defense, white collar crime - whilst doing the most damage to society - isn't generally done on the street.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Well well well.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    you can live in manhattan on that income or is that like two people making that income?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    You can definitely live in Manhattan on $140k. You probably have a studio or 1BR apartment.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    yeah but it lists it as an average while housing is averaging 1.3mil.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Most NYC residents rent, they don't purchase the homes they live in.

    $1.3M is actually lower than I would have guessed for this neighborhood considering the amount of homes here that are probably worth more than $10M (maybe it's a median, not a mean?).

    A quick search does show a bunch of listings for studios less than $500K.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    140K is an after-tax income of 100K. If you spend 75% of your after-tax income on housing (which is utterly insane but people do it), that's $6250 per month, which could support a house price of $800,000 to $900,000. Not a lot for Manhattan.

    You could also pay $6250 a month for rent which is also utterly insane, but would at least get you a somewhat normal apartment with some actual space.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    We really are being selectively watched. We should just do a French.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    We'll they got the flock out of there...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Take down all the ones elesewhere and relocate them here.

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