I'm glad I'm not alone in this joy

I love looking at my NixOs rebuild result (using nh) and seeing -50MB.

... Then I remember I'm on nixos and it doesn't matter much

And the system gets quicker!

The key here IMO is that you decide both when and how.
No such option with Windows, but if you like the GUI and are used to using that, I don't see why anyone of their right mind would have a problem with that.

Personally I prefer to open a terminal and press the up key so I don't have to type the command again, it takes 30 times until I get to the correct command, so it's clearly slower, but hey we all have our little quirks.

That just runs apt and prints it nicely to you

Its all the same under the hood.

As a long time windows user who has switched to CachyOS, I agree, even get notifications about updates

That's a front end on apt. You're just making it pretty.

I like a GUI updater but the Plasma Discover one is so shit, it errors almost every time. I keep it for updating the odd flatpak, etc, but I always have to update from the terminal first.

And I love the pacman eating the progress bar on arch terminal.

Why anyone will hate that?

same for me

Shelly is amazing for Arch. Both CLI and GUI.

The thing with Linux is that it's 100% freedom. It lets you do whatever you want with it, there's plenty of tools that facilitate customization and management.

By contrast, when I use windows at work I often find it won't allow me to do what I want.

"What do you mean that's not possible?"

One fun thing about Linux is that you always learn

Alias na="Sudo nala upgrade -y"

Does update and upgrade with parallel downloads from fast high bandwidth repos and pretty colors 😍

Good to know. I just have a script that does like everything in order, but I could save a line by doing that instead of both beinv separate commands.

Promise: "Linux is cool! You can update and just use your running system while it handles it, then restart when you feel like it!"

Reality: "Heehee Linux is cool...wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka..."

.....C• • • • •

You know, if some one created an in-terminal Pac-Man game to play during the update, that’d be awesome.

Couldn't have said it better.

On mobile we got the different Linux Phone OSes, unfortunately none of them come pre-installed (not counting the obsolete phones from Pine or Librem) and they're still very much beta software. But they too get consistently better, both Plasma Mobile and Phosh make great strides.

I agree, however, rather than individual participation, I would say Linux represents a victory for the collective spirit. Yes Linus has spearheaded the kernal development for years, but without all the other contributors sacrificing countless hours, Linux wouldn't be nearly as successful (and ubiquitous) as it is. Linux demonstrates that we, as a community, can come together to work towards something we know is good and right, without the drive of monetary gain or social recognition, but just because it's fun, or fills a need, or helps us learn.

That's one of the biggest reasons I think Linux is so evangelised on Lemmy specifically: because it epitomises the power of collective altruism in a world increasingly dominated by corporate greed.

Beautifully put.

More individual participation, less corporate involvement, zero corporate ownership of essentials.

I've got some bad news about Linux then, the main contibutors are companies, and the infrastructure is owned by them.

It's not individuals who paying Linus $1.5 million a year (Under "Compensation").

Zypper is the Gen X of package managers.

eeehhh some of the largest contributors are sponsored by mega corps and governments, but yeah the leading ethos is FOSS

Add a pacman hook to create a btrfs snapshot before ever update, if anything stupid breaks, rollback to the snapshot and wait a week for it to get fixed before trying again.

Add a pacman hook to create a btrfs snapshot before every update, if anything stupid breaks, rollback to the snapshot and wait a week for it to get fixed before trying again.

Based Void enjoyer

The main enshitification I've seen has been when a project tries to financially support itself via a supported version or enterprise version. More often than not new features get developed for the paid version and the open source version becomes the community version. New features then never got put in to the community version, or it remains in a crippled state

I certainly have a guess

It's probably heavily dependent on distro, using Bazzite right now and the only bug I've run into recently is ProtonPlus not downloading Steam Tinker Launcher because "yad >= 7.2" for some fucken reason. Let me download it fucker I want to use Vortex to download my fuckoff NV modpack.

Use a Ubuntu or Fedora based distro and only use the GUI upgrader which is designed to avoid breakage.