Trump’s attitude toward Ukraine has never been favorable, but every once in a while, he seems to be ready to do something positive for it. Then a phone call from Russian President Vladimir Putin, or a visit by Trump’s plenipotentiary Steve Witkoff to Moscow, appears to rekindle his hostility toward the embattled country, along with his wishful thinking that Putin is serious about pursuing peace. (U.S. intelligence consistently assesses that he isn’t.) Before the talk of a Patriot license, there was a much-hyped Ukrainian request for Tomahawk cruise missiles, which Trump publicly weighed before unceremoniously declining during another Zelensky visit to the White House, in October.

But this time around, something has changed. The Ukrainian military position is stronger than it has been in years. The country has become more autonomous. It produces many of its own weapons and is holding off Russian advances and even winning back territory in some areas. And it has taken the war to Russia, despite having fewer soldiers and more finite resources than its enemy has.

These and other feats have left Ukraine looking less like a NATO supplicant than an invaluable source of military technology and know-how. If any country in Europe has the incentive and expertise to become a crucial node in America’s military supply chain, it’s Ukraine. You might even call Kyiv a “model ally,” to borrow a term applied to Israel by Elbridge Colby, the undersecretary of defense for policy, who has been an outspoken opponent of U.S. security assistance to Kyiv.

The question is whether the Trump administration recognizes this—or still imagines that it holds all of the cards. Granting Ukraine the Patriot license wouldn’t be a concession to a dependent state fighting an unwinnable war: It could well be the start of a manufacturing arrangement that would end up serving the United States.

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[–] 16 points 2 months ago

All other things aside. I just don't think trump is capable of doing anything but shooting himself in the foot. All someone has to do is wave money under his nose and he will betray the country and himself.

For him it's all about the money. I've always felt russia bribed him to stay out of ukraine, and will do it again.

The Saudi's and israel probably lined his pockets to attack Iran.

It's just who he is, shallow and greedy.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    Well but I do not think that there is any country on earth which deserves the US as an ally. Sorry.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    America doesn’t have the cards

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    According to our fascist rulers, the only ally the USA needs is Israel, everyone else be damned.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    For sure USA is not the ally Ukraine needs. USA has done next to nothing to help Ukraine or to put pressure on Russia.
    As a result USA is now losing Europe as a whole as an ally. Just as they are losing Canada.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    USA has done next to nothing to help Ukraine or to put pressure on Russia.

    Since the 2022 invasion, the US has given $135 billion in military and other assistance to Ukraine, as well as imposing wide ranging sanctions on Russia individuals and businesses. If that's nothing, then Europe has also done nothing.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The usa cannot be trusted under any circumstances so this whole thing is silly

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    [–] 22 points 2 months ago

    It's irrelevant because the US can't be trusted.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago

    America needs Ukraine but doesn't deserve Ukraine as an ally.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    America doesn’t have the cards

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    A drooling dunce is in charge of the US right now. Don't expect anything except nonsense, greed, and Russian handpuppetry.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Ha, who thinks the us gets to have allies anymore? Best they can do is temporary business partner, and then maybe future "nasty" people.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    ... Once trump is no more

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    Every rich ponce who can't tie their own shoes needs a tough person to keep them safe. The US needs support of nations like Ukraine because Ukraine is tough while the US is the screaming rich kid whose parents actually made all the money.

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