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[–] 114 points 3 months ago (16 children)

What are they afraid he’ll do?

  • Gut government services
  • Weaken the US military and international relations
  • Torpedo the economy
  • Empower the rich and fascists
  • Implement a national religion
  • Murder women who get abortions
  • Cover for pedos
  • Remove protections for the young, elderly, disabled, and minorities
  • Allow the poisoning and pillaging of the land
  • Gut education
  • Encourage a surveillance state

Oh, wait that’s MAGA-GOP project 25 shit

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Secularism funneling the way to identity and materialist cultism is going to be a talking point amongst historians. I'm calling it.

    People couldn't fathom many different historical events happening before until they did, in which case, we have to hope the next generation learns well to stop the loopholes.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    oh, the good old religion. it is a good thing that it was never focused on brainwashing people so it could accumulate money in order to gain political power, so they could keep brainwashing people and keep accumulating money... oh, wait, that is exactly what it did!

    yeah, your life is shitty now, but don't worry, it will all get better in the eternal afterlife!

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Troll who is going after whoever he considers "commies". Not worth anyone's time.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    So you’re not gonna confront my claims?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Why would anyone bother? You already admitted to being a troll elsewhere! It's a waste of time to argue with someone who is arguing in bad faith.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I see a lot of conservative breitbart esque coverage of the rental properties but I'm not interested in hearing their perspective. I heard him say he's a capitalist, which was a little better in context but still not great.

    I downvoted you because it seems like your actual issue is his progressive policies, and not the capitalism. Don't be an opp

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    I mean I'd bet good money it's a talking point right now somewhere. It's not particularly hard to notice if you're willing to interrogate secularism for flaws. Turns out taking away religious identity just replaces it with other identities that aren't necessarily more pleasant.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)
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    Nationalism is probably the big one. This is less obvious in the West where the transition is more or less complete (even religious people in the West tend to be nationalist first and religious second), but in (my corner of) the third world people pushing for secularism tend to basically simultaneously push for nationalism and vice versa.

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  • [+] 80 points 3 months ago* (14 children)
  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    They make it a "free speach" thing like false accusations are covered under that law.

    I can't go around lying to police about how "my neighbor tried to kill me." Ruining their life for fun or profit has consequences, and rightfully so.

    But for some reason, public figures go around talking about how "all trans people are pedophiles" and "immigrants are eating our cats and dogs."

    It does ruin many lives too through deportation, bullying, gossip, and even just small stuff like reducing likelyhood of fucking getting hired at a job.

    But also same figures and journalists, in spite of the victim testimonies and released files, can NOT call a certain someone pedophile without losing their job because "they didn't say allagedly."

    It's like the application of laws and even their morals themselves bend around to unprotect minorities.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago*

    I can’t go around lying to police about how “my neighbor tried to kill me.” Ruining their life for fun or profit has consequences, and rightfully so. lemmy.blahaj.zone I mean, you can do that though. And it would cost your neighbor a significant amount of money to fight it.

    And if you're white (and wealthy, and a republican politician), then you get away with it every time.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    I believe it falls under libel, but that's up to the person being defamed to pursue.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Slander is spoken, libel is written. Might be a little blurred in the age of video and podcasts though. Anyway, slander and libel cases are famously hard to win, because you have to prove the statement was made, the person who made it knew it was false, and that it damaged your reputation. It's also harder to win for public figures, as the increase in general media around them tends to dilute damaging statements.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Proving that Tommy Tuberville knew, or knows, anything would be pretty much impossible.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Yeah. Dude is a certified bigoted ignorant jackass. The check on guys like him is supposed to be the voting public, but I've seen what makes maga cheer... Part of the reason why I think a democracy where voting rights are "equal' will never produce an effective government.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    A penalty for islamophobia in America? The country that invented islamophobia? The country built on discrimination and slavery? Good one.

    I can't wait for the day the whole shit burns down.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I'm pretty sure if there's a country that invented Islamophobia it's either the Papal States or somewhere in central Europe and did it before people were aware that there were two clusters of continents on different hemispheres.

    America absolutely got really in on it, but at our founding we were generally ok with Islam. But yes we were built on genocide and slavery.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I read that dudes comment and thought the same thing. Pretty sure the Crusades got the good ole USA beat by hundreds of years in the realm of islamophobia.

    But also yeah the islamophobia is the USA is obnoxious and loud. As a white dude, I hate and get annoyed by all of that bullshit and the fact that when I'm travelling down south everyone assumes I'm a racist white guy and says dumb shit to me.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Yeah I really don't want to discount our country's real problems, but I also don't want to lend credence to the idea that it was founded as a Christian nation or that it's always been wholly evil in every way.

    Also I don't want Europeans to brush off the islamophobia that they have as well. We all need to do better in this area.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Those old american politicians. Their last recourse for anything is "They're not white and they don't think like me!".

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Then it is up to us pasty white folks who hate fascists and racists; to show that "hey, you might be the same shade of skin colour as me, but your personality and politics are if a shade of bullshit I detest. Tommy Tubervulle is a mongerel

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Yep, I for one am glad that someone smart and with good politics won the senate primary and that it's even better to have him be Egyptian American, considering that's a group that faces discrimination and deserves representation.

    John Adams told one of our earliest friendly nations (Morocco) that our country is just as much for Muslims as it is for Christians, and while I may have a lot of disagreements with the founding fathers I think they nailed that one on the head

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    in my country if a politician posted something like that, would be sued for defamation and will 100% lose in court.

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  • [–] 57 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    TBF, Tommy Tuberville is Olympic-level caliber at saying things that make him look stupid.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago*

    The ability to tell stupid lies and not be stopped is a display of dominance. It's showing that you have no control over these people to make them tell the truth or do anything else that you want them to do, because they are in control and not you.

    Whining about him doing it while letting him do it simply reinforces that point; he still gets to do what he wants, we still get to listen to him do it, and that's not changing any time soon.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Tommy Tuberville is such a made up sounding name.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago

    Are Senators exempt from laws in the US? Given how easily this can be disproved why hasn't he been sued to the point of bankruptcy?

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    to be fair, this had been working for several decades, they're not gonna learn new tricks now

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    There hasn't been a time in my life, and I'm not young anymore, that American conservatism hasn't been a racist movement.

    The most racist element of that movement are at the end of their lives and the racist GOP know that. Unless they can cheat their way into total control, this is their last big push. That's why they aren't hiding it anymore.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    You jest, but within 5 days after he gets into senate, our government will be using public schools to teach children arabic numerals! /s

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    Clearly in order for the Scientify Thinking in America to be proper and acceptable, the Trump Administration needs to go even further back than the discover of Climate Change and of Vaccines: all the way to 9th Century Europe before such "terrorist" numerals were adopted.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    They call him a radical Islamist because of his ethnicity alone?
    Or did he do something incriminating?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Oh thats funny I heard Tuberville was in the Klan.

    ... we can just play exactly the same game here.

    We in fact should be.

    Fuck decorum, antagonize these idiots untill they fuck up even harder.

    They aren't constrained by facts. We can leave facts to policy, tell everybody Tumortown fucked his sister, why not?

    Just do it via a PAC that implies those things without literally directly saying them.

    Or, 'just asking questions'.

    The rhetorical trick of the paranoid delusional, why not, they love it.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    They've spent decades conditioning the dumbest among us to respond like dogs to Arabic sounding names.

    Sadly, it's worked.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago*

    Comparing Tuberville to almost anyone with a pulse makes Tuberville look stupid. Even John Kennedy seems smart compared to him.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I can see America being destroyed under republican rule

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    The fact that you need to research that information about him to prove it, but don't need to research the allegations against him says a lot

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Football coach turned politician, what do you expect?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    honey our president is a terrorist. .... most our government is ran by terrorists.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Republicans don’t know they’re the terrorists.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    I forget the conversation that turned into an argument and the republican screaming at the democrat about trump derangement syndrome, while the democrat was talking real shit that mattered and was basically pointing out the flaws in which the republicans don't see with their handling of I think it was either Gaza or the current middle eastern conflict something though and it blew my mind. It made me go you gotta be fucking with me how there's real shit that needs to be talked about and discussed in a civil manner and because one side needs to have a perception of being correct it just turned into an absolute shit show.

    I immediately said afterwards while shaking my head in a what the fuck did I just see manner and did a long deep sigh and said, "Thank goodness I stopped caring about politics."

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Hypocrisy is lost on MAGA. They believe it's Trump versus Satan, that anyone not them is pure evil by fiat, and therefore any action of their own is justified, even when it is violent or heinous.

    And because their peerless leader is pure good by fiat, his own behaviors that are immoral or incompetent are disregarded as beyond the need for explanation.

    This is common in cults of personality. It's also super fragile if the leader dies without major effort to define an heir in advance.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    stupid ignorant assholes representing his state of stupid ignorant assholes......

    these politicians don't appear out of nowhere, this is the best alabama can do!

    and also, what kind of stupid fucking name is tommy tuberville? that is a fucking cartoon character name not someone a fucking adult would vote for!

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    As opposed to the radical christians in the senate and office right now?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Hey, Tommy has been accused of a lot of things. "Smart" was never one of those.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    If Tuberville sounds stupid. It’s because there’s a potatoe shoved up his ass. It’s been there long enough it’s sprouted and is now doing all his thinking for him.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know, I really like potatoes. And I find it impressive how they have such will to live.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, yeah.

    Potatoes are amazing and resilient.

    But they’re not particularly smart, and it’s less smart to leave one up yer ass.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Extreme Racist: "People from ethnicities I don't like are all 'terrorists'"

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Can you sue this motherfucker for defamation?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    If all they got is racism they don't got much.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    When Trump started his political career, it invited everyone to express their racism openly. Prior to that, they were adhering to the Reagan rules, which was instead to use racist dog whistles. (welfare state, street gangs, urban crime, and so on).

    As the MAGA movement formed, open racism became a means of costly signaling. It tells your fellow MAGAs that you are one of them. It also tells the rest of us that you are racist.

    Other signaling includes talking about liberals in the same manner one uses a racial slur, not only regarding them as a monolithic bloc¹ but also accusing them of outrageous wrongs, specifically acts of treason or betrayal of the country. This is much like blood libel, in which the accusations are not meant to be plausible, rather that fellow MAGAs are to pretend they are true. See also They're eating the dogs.

    Anyway, Tuberville had shown time and again in his career that he doesn't care if he looks stupid, especially to anyone outside of MAGA, but that he is a staunch MAGA loyalist who will lick any boot and even sacrifice himself to stay adjacent to power.

    Of course, when Trump or some higher up actually requires that he sacrifice himself his opinion may change. But he's signaling that he's a good, obedient dog to the end.

    I also anticipate that when Trump dies or otherwise MAGA falls out of fashion (it's certainly losing popularity already), Tuberville will try to pretend he was never really into all that MAGA nonsense, and none of his statements and behavior ever happened. And it will be up to the public to make sure neither he, nor any other opportunists like him, ever live it down.

    ¹ Liberals are not a monolithic bloc even if most of them share some common values. The same is true for conservatives, feminists, Methodists or any other significantly large demographic. -- This is why the face-eating leopards always eventually come for your face no matter how true and loyal you are; in Fascism, the set of acceptable identity markers closes like a Fortnite perimeter and shuts you out.

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