I wish moderate libs would understand that the demsocs are helping to move the Overton window further left, which is a good thing because it's moved way too far to the right due to the ratchet effect. I mean, Jesus, do libs not know how to negotiate? You know compromise will be necessary, so start left of the position you want to end up at. You start at democratic socialism but you end up at a relatively modest, European style social democracy. If that's too far left for you, well, you might as well just cut the crap and join the Republican party now.

The neo libs don't care if you're right. They don't support your ideals and they want you to have no voice.

Fuck the neo libs. Fuck the fascists. They can rot together in hell. Maybe the Socialists can show them how governing is supposed to fuckin work.

kick fetterman out for the same reason

Shouldn't we want for the DNC to not prop up some primary candidates over others? I don't think Hogg should have been procedurally yeated out like he was, but I do feel like the DNC playing favorites is something that we as voters have historically objected to.

It [Hogg's PAC] has also backed a number of progressive challengers who’ve gone on to defeat well-funded, establishment-backed candidates this cycle, including community activist Donavan McKinney in Michigan, labor organizer Claire Valdez in New York, and professor Randy Villegas in California, who’ve each claimed Democratic nominations for the US House.

Cool, but that's like playing on "Easy" mode. Run somebody in Missouri! Iowa. Idaho ffs. Progressives are winning in deep-blue states? Well, that's good, but in this fascist environment I'd expect voters would even go with Clinton-level Dems to win there. That they had more progressive options to choose is excellent, but don't mistake that for a nationwide movement. Because It's not showing up in the red states (yet).

The DNC needs to jettison the consultants who want to buy TV ads. They need a core social media organization and an understanding of why to have that. They don't. Therefore, they're flying blind. These wins help nudge them in the right direction but until they can get some new leadership they're going to continue to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory unless people get out and vote for them in the unexpected areas.

HELL YEAH BROTHER CRANK THE HOGG!!!!

Fucking bullshit...

The prior DNC fucked up the vice chair election Hogg won.

The new DNC chair, said the ethical thing to do, was to re-run the vice elections, this time according to the rules.

Hogg would have 100% won that, but he declined to run in the election despite being virtually guaranteed to win

Hogg's problem should be with Jamie Harrison for fucking up the first one that Hogg won.

But my problem is Hogg refused to run for the re-election, and it seems he never wanted to win in the first place. It seems like his plan was to lose and pivot to a super PAC which is what he said he was going to do when he denied to run, but I don't even think he's done that.

All he's done is try to get people to disengage from the Dem party, and he started almost exactly as soon as neoliberals lost power.

I don't know if he's corrupt or just fucking stupid.

Edit:

So to be perfectly clear:

1. DNC voting members elected Hogg

2. Due to a technical error about woman/minority candidates, the DNC chair said it was ethical to run the election over instead of accept the results of a fraudulent election

3. Hogg refused to run, even though the same voting members who elected him were gonna vote again.

4. Hogg spends a year shit talking the very people that elected him to be a vice chair. And claims that a wave of progress that happened without him, somehow proves that that the party isn't progressive even tho they've elected Hogg personally in 100% of positions he's run for. And that means we shouldn't trust the people who elected him and ushered in a wave of progress.

If anything, this proves the DNC made a mistake when they elected him the first time.

Dude should not be involved in a party if he doesn't even understand how this works.

Especially since he didn't get loud again till after primaries and right before the general.

We need to abolish the dnc. They are not democratic and only serve the people that finance them. They would rather have republicans get elected than have citizens vote for progress.

Still not wrong

So fucked up when they pushed him out. The man deserves his "I told you so" moment.

Yep. Head in the office did an interview with him a while ago (before we knew why Ken Martin didn't want to release the 2024 retrospective), and I remember thinking he just sounded like a guy tired of dealing with obvious bullshit.

You cannot reform the system from within. It is the enemy. It wants you dead or in chains. It does not care for the noises you make or shapes you scrawl.