As the title states, either these browsers are nothing but full of trackers and ads or they are so locked down that they are basically not functional. Why can't I find a browser that is just a freaking browser but with no BS???

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[–] 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This has been my browser of choice since the death of Mull

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'm using it in parallel with Fennec. Ironfox a lot of times takes ages to load a page, I know its likely because it is stricter what to strip away or block or whatever it does during that, but sometimes I cannot be bothered to wait 5-10 seconds until I see the page, so I use Fennec.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Since working on towards being fully degoogled, the Play Store is off limits. Exploring the different app stores ( Aurora Store, F-Droid, Droid-ify, SaveHaven, Zapstore, Appteka, etc.) Never knew so many different stores existed until finally starting exploring them.

    Aurora Store has been helpful, especially in showing you what apps have trackers in them or not. Learning over time whatapls suit me.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago

    Fennec gives you Firefox with the telemetry stuff removed, and can use the same extensions as desktop Firefox.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago

    I've had no complaints about Firefox for Android. It even supports privacy addons like NoScript and UBlock Origin.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago

    Firefox or one of it's many many forks is the way to go. Personally I use IronFox as a browser that's locked down by default, with some heavy uBlock Origin as blocking (it's a less featured uMatrix), and an "on device VPN" app for DNS filtering for device wide ad blocking.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    i use vivaldi. fine for mobile (just a browser) and really cool fpr desktop since you can customize the ui in any way you want.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Firefox is still an option, but if you aren't fond of Mozilla, you also have Fennec (the F-Droid build that removes telemetry bits by default) and IronFox (a more secure spin of Firefox)

    You can decide whether to use Firefox Sync or not depending on how much you trust Mozilla, and extensions are supported on the Android version too! (in particular, I like uBlock Origin and Dark Background Light Text)

    As for the desktop side (in case you need that as well), you have plenty of Firefox-based options as well, like LibreWolf (requires some configuration to disable some of the anti-finger printing stuff though), Zen Browser, and Floorp. Even plain Firefox is better than any Chromium-based options. You might also want to look out of Ladybird, which will use an independent engine (not Blink or Gecko!)

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Librewolf seems like a go-to choice for many people like you. Assuming you are on mobile, you can try Waterfox (but it might become bloated like FF in a few months, I dunno) or kind of an ungoogled chromium. I tried AOSmium which is another one ungoogled chromium, it is too minimal for me but might be good for you. They also claim to have some Vanadium's privacy patches (you might try building Vanadium from source btw).

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I recently downloaded Ironfox to try it along with Fennec for mobile. So far no issues.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    i use waterfox, it's been perfect.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Dude! Right?! It works so well while remaining pretty trustworthy. I added Privacy badger and port authority at the recommendation of EFF and Firefox extension store ratings, just to have it that much more secure. I especially love blocking Lexis Nexis port scanning!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I tried Waterfox a few months back and had loads of issues with it, it just didn't seem ready. I must try it again. using Fennec at the minute.

    On a separate note, does anyone know if there's a reason that you can't view pages preloaded when offline anymore?

    I had damaged my SIM before going to the shop the other day, loaded up a website with a recipe and ingredients on the page before I left using home WiFi.

    When I got to the store, I couldn't view the page, it wanted to load again..

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Brave and Safari?? Since when was Safari a recommended browser? Safari's default search engine is Google (even though they're not apart of Chromium, they still use Google).

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    It seems that the default search engine is an iPhone setting, not a Safari setting: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-your-default-search-engine-iphb719b43de/26/ios/26 It seems that DuckDuckGo has been an available search engine since at least Jun 9, 2026 (and that is a search engine that is recommended): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89aAHJR6v7k Configuring your operating system is a recommended procedure (though I don't presently see a recommendation to select which search engine should be used, I do see a recommendation to "Disable Search Engine Suggestions"): https://www.privacyguides.org/en/os/ios-overview/?h=iphone#recommended-configuration

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    This may be a bit extreme but, try the Emacs Web Browser, no bloat in there.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    The BS (trackers etc.) are on the web sites and you get them automatically unless your browser either actively filters them out, or implements an incomplete enough part of present-day web protocols that they don't receive the trackers (e.g. by not supporting Javascript).

    Unfortunately, filtering trackers is a never-ending arms race, while using a browser for the "historical web" makes a lot of present-day sites inaccessible.

    I.e. the problem is the web itself, not the browser, for the most part.

    I use Firefox but have fairly aggressive umatrix origin (ad blocker) settings, if that helps.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 months ago

    I assumed that Firefox/Fennec was gonna be the main choice. That seemed to be the only browser that's functional.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Enshittification.

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    [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    I like Cromite for that, but I have to keep going back to chrome for certain things because websites have verification nonsense or something

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Never for mobile, but I used to use them for desktop as my search engine while my current browser is Firefox. Unfortunately theyve gotten so bad lately.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Huh. I sort of like the mobile browser. Simple and does its job.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago

    It feels so slow and laggy to me, especially since when they started getting heavily advertised as the browser for people switching from Google. It used to run way better before they had that massive influx.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    try helium

    ah missed this was android - I use Firefox mobile with ublock origin and it works well.

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    Ironfox or Omni browser.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (14 children)
  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    After hearing on the recent controversy from Mullvad, I'm not gonna go that route in using them. Same with anything Proton, don't want the drama.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    That's a fun hot take, regardless the open source browser they sponser is amazing and it's exactly what I want out of the box.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    it's an extremely hot take to call them a nazi because you disagree on one person's political viewpoints on immigration, and try to purity test a great open source project because of it.

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    now you have moved the goalposts from mullvad, to one of its founders using personal money, now to a political party that isn't involved in mullvad.

    does any of this impact the open source project? no.

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    and they cited a article calling the cofounder a nazi.

    I don't care about the cofounders personal politics. The product is open source, its solid, and does a excellent job.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago

    Good for you, but the discussion in this comment thread has always been about his politics

    No... it has been about mullvad being a great browser that just acts like a browser.

    that is literally what the first reply to your comment in this chain was about.

    and i've addressed why that hot take is just a whataboutism and purity testing doesn't belong in open source discussions.

    Don’t engage in the first place if you are so unwilling to discuss it.

    Same to you buddy! This is my thread your badgering me on.

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