I'd love to print these out on biodegradable filament!

*Alas, I cannot find the stl... :(

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[–] 45 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Awesome project, but I’m really bummed out he’s openly supporting that piece of shit company

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago

    Oooh, if that algae-derived TPE would just hit the market already... 😍

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    Yeah, but he concluded that they kinda suck. At least version one. Fun project, but pointless?

    I bet if you asked, Seth would make the stl available.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    He'd like em a lot better, if he took the tread off and stuffed them inside a tire. Still wonder to this day how mountain biking hasn't picked up on Mousses. They came pretty close with those cush cores, but they still weren't really meant to be run flat. I run mousses in my dirtbike, and they generally kick ass. A big miserable to install the first couple times until you get the hang of it, but awesome.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You kinda run into the same issue as runflat inserts on cars. They make the wheel a lot heavier, bad for something human powered. Rotational mass costs more power to move than mass on the frame.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    It lighter than a tube on a dirtbike. It makes the rotating mass less.

    On a mountain bike the amount of material you'd need would definitely be a little bit of added weight vs tubeless. But it probably wouldn't be a whole lot more substantial than tires full of sealant. Certainly wouldn't be any more than these doubledown sidewall tires, which would be substantially heavier. The only way they fail is if the tire fully comes off the bead. We use rim locks on dirtbikes to prevent that, but dirtbikes also weight 250 pounds, and they produce a lot of power under throttle. You wouldn't need that with a mountain bike tire.

    It would beat flat tires trailside, having to constantly reinflate a tire that's been sitting, and it would eliminate the mess of sealant.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Tyre insert fad has been and gone over the last few years. There are a shitload of options, not just cushcore.

    Decent tyres are better than an inadequate tyre with something stuffed inside.

    Dirt bikes are so much faster, heavier and powerful that comparisons with mountain bikes are mostly unhelpful.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    So faster, heavier, more powerful, but the comparison isnt useful?

    Just so we are clear, I don't have any air in my tire. No tubes, no messy sealant, no tubeless. It's a foam core. It can't go flat, and you get traction for days. It's not cush core, or any of the alternatives, which is where I think they went wrong, because those all still require air. Air is one of the biggest, if not the biggest failure on a mountain bike. They don't weight all that much either, I'd take an extra few ounces of rotating weight vs futzing with air trailside.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    his point made sense. tubeless is "good enough" that there isn't a demand nor market for airless 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    first thought without opening the link:

    what if you drive through dirt? will it all clog up and feel extra shit?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The sides are open, why would it clog up?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Because mud will do what mud does and clog any opening smaller than a few inches wide?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It'll get squeezed and/or flung out the next revolution of the wheel though

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I can't even clear up regular spokes fully by going 40kmh down a road because of the clay type mud we get.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Afaik you could buy airless. It has been a commercial product for decades.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    That sounds very bad for many reasons

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    [–] 23 points 3 months ago

    Germans did it first, a century ago...

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If it doesn't last as long, wouldn't it produce a higher volume of plastic pollution. Even if it does break down quicker, it might increase your impact. Also, I think your bike tire wear is truly an insignificant contributor to pollution. Your effort would be much better spent advocating for bike lanes, giving an old bike to a friend so they can drive less, etc. If you ride instead of Uber 1 time, you're probably offsetting a month of bike tire wear.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Really cool! One thing I sometimes concern my self about is the minimal (comparatively) pollution my bicycle tires make. I would LOVE to print out this design on bio-degradable filament. It very likely wouldn't last as long, but that's fine if I'm even further reducing my impact. *Also I almost exclusively ride in urban environments.

    Note: most biodegradable filaments are only degradable in industrial-level compost facilities; however, they do break down a lot quicker than conventional plastics in normal conditions.

    **Can anyone find the .stl? :O

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    He should put them on that absolutely trash ebike too he pulled apart

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's a really weird claim that they don't exist when the first search result for "airless bike" is an amazon link with a large selection of airless mountain bike tires. Is he using a really restrictive definition of mountain bike tires? I looked into this when I moved somewhere I was getting constant tube punctures, but the general consensus seemed to be that they all just suck for various reasons. I ended up going with tire guards plus bike tubes with sealant, this combo seems to work very well, only need to replace the tubes once or twice a year despite multiple thorns getting stuck in the tires every day that would otherwise cause a flat.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    If it's thorns that are doing it, have you tried tubeless? That sealant stuff will seal a pretty sizeable thorn hole pretty much almost instantly. I've had rides where you look at it after, and you can see all these little pinholes of sealant poking through, but you haven't had a noticeable loss of air. I've only ever had one flat on tubeless so far, in the decade or so that I've been running it, and it was because I was being arrogant and running my tires at basically 10psi. Got it caught between two sharp rocks that basically did a snakebite on the sidewall. Still got it plugged and blown back up on the trail in under 5 minutes (which is my opinion the best part of tubeless). The cons are your tires go flat if it sits for a period of time, and you have to top them up fairly regularly, but it's worth it IMO.

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